Nov 4, 2008 09:17
15 yrs ago
Czech term

kramářský tisk

Czech to English Art/Literary Poetry & Literature
From sentence: Uchovává rovněž početnou sbírku exlibris a kramářských tisků, která je rozsahem největší svého druhu v ČR.

My preliminary Internet research has also uncovered kramářská piseň if that helps at all.

Discussion

Radovan Pletka Nov 4, 2008:
OK, I bite (smile), because of my father. I contacted my US resources and I will let you know. It may take a day or two, I hope it is not a rush job. It is good to see that you understand well how Kudoz should really work
Scott Evan Andrews (asker) Nov 4, 2008:
In light of the interesting reference provided by Rad'a, and his question about how to look into this further, I would like to paste the entire paragraph, which unfortunately is my only context.
The point of Kudoz is to get to the bottom of terms, but I'm afraid unless our dear friends the Brits had a similar fashion, this might be a "new" term to English, and one that needs extra attention before I dare to say it's accurate (history's so long, I rather think the term's been translated for centuries).
Paragraph (o Knihovne narodniho muzea):
Jsou zde shromážděny i doklady k vývoji knižní kultury, dokumentující průběh vzniku české knihy, tj. od prvotní korespondence nakladatele se spisovatelem nebo typografem, přes sazbu, úpravu a ilustrační výzdobu knihy, uměleckou knižní vazbu až k její samotné propagaci. Uchovává rovněž početnou sbírku exlibris a kramářských tisků, která je rozsahem největší svého druhu v ČR.
Igor Liba Nov 4, 2008:
The same institute uses translation of "Kramarske tisky" here http://rvvi.msmt.cz/detail.php?download=858&doc=643&ic=68378...
Igor Liba Nov 4, 2008:
for Mr. Pletka: http://www.ikaros.cz/node/5021 - Katalog kramářských tisků je soupisem 3304 položek sbírky kramářských tisků Etnologického ústavu AV ČR

Proposed translations

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broadside printing

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Ještě link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadside_(printing)

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadside_(music)
Peer comment(s):

agree Maria Chmelarova
4 hrs
děkuji
disagree Radovan Pletka : Podivejte se na vysvetleni toho, co jsou kramarske tisky
10 hrs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadside_(music) - vykopírujte si i tu koncovku (music)
agree Igor Liba : Printed lyrics of popular songs were extremely popular from the 16th century until the early 20th century. They were commonly known as broadsides or broadsheets
12 hrs
díky
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "sorry for delay, big delay...university never did get back to me, and I've simply no other resources, one agreed with you, so thanks much"
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higgler print

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http://rvvi.msmt.cz/detail.php?download=858&doc=643&ic=68378...

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http://aplikace.isvav.cvut.cz/projectDetail.do?rowId=IBS9058...
Peer comment(s):

agree seraalice : I agree, also used: http://aplikace.isvav.cvut.cz/projectDetail.do?rowId=IBS9058...
23 mins
dakujem
disagree Radovan Pletka : Vzhledem k malemu poctu hitu mi to tez nepripada spravne - viz moje vysvetleni co jsou kramarske tisky, ktere je spravne. Doporucuji tohle probrat se vzdelanym native speakerem, spravny preklad by mel mit vic hitu.
10 hrs
what about translation used by Etnologický ústav AV ČR
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21 hrs

chapbooks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapbook
Lenka is on the right track with broadsides/broadsheets but according to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_prints broadsides were single sheet and a kramářský tisk and chapbook are both booklets (see http://www.muzeum.esnet.cz/novum.htm). Often illustrated with crude woodcuts/sold at markets by chapmen etc and the dates tally. The Czech versions seem to be more religious in flavour! - perhaps you could leave the Czech and gloss it in brackets or something.
HTH
Charlie
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Reference comments

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Reference:

Kramarske tisky

Muj otec je cely zivot sbiral. Jsou to ve sve podstate male listy papiru, potistene notami a textem pisni, ktere byly v te dobe popularni. Mohou to byt jednoduche listy az male brozurky s vetsim poctem stranek, obvykle ze 17-19 stoleti. O jake sbirce se v tom prekladu hovori?

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Zde je dobre vysvetleni kramarskych pisni a dobry obrazek kramarskeho tisku
http://www.ikaros.cz/node/3584

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http://www.musicologica.cz/slovnik/hesla.php?op=heslo&hid=58...

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http://www.ikaros.cz/node/5021 - Katalog
kramářských tisků je soupisem 3304 položek sbírky
kramářských tisků Etnologického ústavu AV ČR

Tohle vypada, ze uz ti sotci konecne zacali 11 let po tatove smrti zpracovavat to, co jim odkazal. Uz je na case.
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