4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you very much for your translation Socratis Vavilis. I believe all three of you gentleman. I was unaware that "know" is a more complex verb in Greek than in English. Votong was not easy however I chose Socratis' answer because it seems to be the context I was looking for and checks out on the internet too. Thanks again everyone for your answers and your help. Sincerely, Brian1 "