Feb 25, 2010 16:28
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Arabic term

العروبة

Arabic to English Other Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc.
العودة للحفاظ عل العرب والعروبة

Discussion

Ahmed Alami Feb 25, 2010:
Yes, the meaning of the word in a specific context and a specific nuance on the source text, add to this the effect intended to be created on the target audience.
Nadia Ayoub Feb 25, 2010:
Hello Baligh, what I meant is I am not a native speaker, and if the dictionary says this is what the word means, even if I thought it had a different meaning, I'd believe the dictionary. Maybe if it was my mother tongue the situation would be different, because I am the one who make use of the word and shed certain meanings on it. Anyway I did not say that the other translations offered were wrong. I just did not see anything political in the definition provided.
Nadia Ayoub Feb 25, 2010:
I agree with you Ahmed, but we are discussing the meaning of a word, and not how to translate a term or sentence.
baligh Feb 25, 2010:
Nadia, don't tell my boss that because then I'll be jobless! :) just kidding
Ahmed Alami Feb 25, 2010:
I disagree If dictionaries and data bases are a more reliable source than human reasoning, who created them by the way, we could wave farewell to our profession and welcome machine translation!
Nadia Ayoub Feb 25, 2010:
The dictionary is a more reliable source.
atefwasfy (asker) Feb 25, 2010:
Hello ,Nadia I just want to know your points of view about what I read
in this forum
Nadia Ayoub Feb 25, 2010:
Hello Atef. The definition provided by Ruth shows that the word Arabism is suitable for your purpose.
Nadia Ayoub Feb 25, 2010:
Hello Atef. The definition provided by Ruth shows that the word Arabism is suitable for your purpose.
baligh Feb 25, 2010:
Thats exactly what I was pointing at
atefwasfy (asker) Feb 25, 2010:
pls,read this discussion I don't want to say Arabism because that has a political meaning to it while 3ruuba does not have to be a political thing, it's cultural.
http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=1262172

Proposed translations

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Arabism

Or Pan-Arabism
Peer comment(s):

agree Ruth Braine : Looks like you just beat me to it Muhammad!
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agree Ghada Samir
4 mins
agree Lina Shehabi Murad (Mourant)
12 mins
agree sktrans
19 mins
agree Liliane Hatem
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Arab nationalism

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Arabism

Definition from online Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

devotion to Arab interests, culture, aspirations, or ideals
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thank you
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agree Ghada Samir
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agree Lina Shehabi Murad (Mourant)
10 mins
agree sktrans
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arabicity

Although this term is not widely known and maybe has not been officially minted in English yet, it is essencially different from the concept of "arabism" since the latter is impulsed by nationalism, while the former is an intrinsic quality of Arab people.

It exists in French as "arabité" and in Spanish as "arabicidad".



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Note added at 16 minutos (2010-02-25 16:45:08 GMT)
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Arabic identity is a possiblity as well...
I just do not see "arabism" as a good equivalent because it is a nationalist position and politically oriented stand.
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thank you,your point of view is highly considered
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pan-Arab identity

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Note added at 7 mins (2010-02-25 16:35:25 GMT)
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http://www.google.co.ma/search?hl=fr&safe=off&rlz=1C1_____en...

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Arab identity
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arabism

We encourage the Arabs against Arabism
Example sentence:

نحن نشجع العرب على العروبه

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