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Glossary entry

Italian term or phrase:

in particolare, in modo non esclusivo

English translation:

particularly but not exclusively

    The asker opted for community grading. The question was closed on 2010-05-25 12:54:09 based on peer agreement (or, if there were too few peer comments, asker preference.)
May 22, 2010 11:41
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Italian term

non esclusivo

Italian to English Tech/Engineering Construction / Civil Engineering tender bid documents
context: "Il progetto esecutivo verrà sviluppato in accordo alla normativa tecnica vigente, in particolare, in modo non esclusivo"

Is this just BS ? I suspect it is but any delucidations would be welcome. I also hate "in particolare" which usually means nothing at all.
Proposed translations (English)
4 particularly but not exclusively
4 +1 namely, in a non-exclusive arrangement
3 italian does not make sense
3 non-exclusive way

Discussion

Valeria E. (X) May 22, 2010:
that should not be an easy task!
Tom in London (asker) May 22, 2010:
Silk purse And the role of the translator (me) is to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.....fare una portamonete di seta dall'orecchio di una maiala....
Valeria E. (X) May 22, 2010:
I don't know if it's done deliberately sometimes people write tecnical stuff just too fast and the style does not interest as long as they somehow write a text. It is slobbish for sure.
Tom in London (asker) May 22, 2010:
Excellent ...Valeria. The whole document is so badly written that I am continuously surprising myself as I find simple, straightforward meanings obfuscated behind semi-illiterate prose which, I fear, has been written deliberately in that way, to create an impression of "authority". "Vehicle" is "mezzo di trasporto" and so on......
Valeria E. (X) May 22, 2010:
that is true already the end of this sentence is 'funny'. I would say: in particolare is directed to the words before 'normativa tecnica...' which means that the comma was not necessary and is incorrect.
'normativa tecnica vigente in particolare e in modo non esclusivo.'
Tom in London (asker) May 22, 2010:
I should add..... ... that the document in general is very poorly written in Italian.

Proposed translations

15 mins
Italian term (edited): in particolare, in modo non esclusivo
Selected

particularly but not exclusively

in particolare MA in modo non esclusivo

è detto malissimo, ma probabilmente manca semplicemente un "ma"

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Note added at 16 mins (2010-05-22 11:58:07 GMT)
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sì, very poorly written
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "excellent Luskie. Thanks"
1 hr

italian does not make sense

The detailed design shall be performed in compliance with current technical standards.

If the design is not in compliance with the standards then why bother!
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+1
2 hrs
Italian term (edited): in particolare, in modo non esclusivo

namely, in a non-exclusive arrangement

"in particolare" here means "nello specifico"
"in modo esclusivo" is one of either ways in which the project can be executed
Peer comment(s):
agree Paulo Horsky
5 hrs
thx
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1 hr

non-exclusive way

according to the technical rules in particular and in a non-exclusive way
according to the particular technical rules and in a non-exclusive way

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Note added at 19 hrs (2010-05-23 07:05:10 GMT)
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this is how we learned to translate these sentences or similar..
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