Sep 22, 2010 20:13
13 yrs ago
Russian term

корабли из других палестин и таласс

Russian to English Art/Literary History A text about the peoples around the Caspian sea
В галерее местных эпических героев можно найти воинов и абреков, но не моряков и пиратов . Поэтому Каспий бороздили преимущественно корабли из других палестин и таласс.

The text is about the area around the Caspian sea. As far as I know, there is only one Palestine, and the Caspian is not exactly near it. and I can't find any places called Tallas, so I assume it's a reference to the sea goddess.

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ships from other lands and sees

"палестина" from small letter is a metaphor for any country while Thalassa is sea goddess, so figuratively it can be used for "sea"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalassa_(mythology)
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agree Judith Hehir : I cast my vote here for the explanation and link you've provided (as well as the translation itself).
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Thank you very much, Judith! Much appreciated!
agree Rinnel
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Большое спасибо, Катя!
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agree Alexandra Taggart : "other way round"
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Спасибо за поддержку и уточнение!
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ships from other lands and seas

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Note added at 10 mins (2010-09-22 20:23:43 GMT)
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but you should find some poethic synonims for lands and seas
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agree Judith Hehir
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agree Aleksey Chervinskiy
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agree Jack Doughty
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agree Rinnel
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ships from other shores and seas

The word θάλασσα in modern Greek means sea. It is considered not to be of Indo-European Origin. Seas therefore seems correct. Perhaps the writer is making some kind of comparison between the Mediterranean and the
Caspian, since Palestine is located at the far Eastern end of the former, so
perhaps this is a sort of poetic reference to the Eastern shore of the Caspian.
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Also very interesting. Thanks for your input.
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Reference comments

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Reference:

ПАЛЕСТИНА

Словарь Ушакова
ПАЛЕСТИ́НА, палестины, чаще мн. палестины, ин, жен. (разг.). Местность, край (преим. о своем, родном). «Поздравить любезного гостя с прибытием в родные палестины.» А.Тургенев. «Одно горе: в наших палестинах учителя сыскать довольно затруднительно.» А.Тургенев.
|| Обширное, далекое и глухое место. «Леса там большущие - такая палестина, что верст по пятидесяти ни жила, ни дорог нету.» Мельников-Печерский. (По названию страны в Азии; срн. обетованный.)

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Note added at 4 hrs (2010-09-23 00:51:37 GMT)
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http://www.proz.com/kudoz/russian_to_english/poetry_literatu...
Note from asker:
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