Sep 26, 2010 03:52
13 yrs ago
Japanese term
United Kingdom
社会相当性
Japanese to English
Bus/Financial
Insurance
Hi everyone, I am translating a text describing various violations of rules which may be committed by insurance solicitors.
One of these consists of offering the policy holder or insured party a certain type of benefits: 社会相当性を超える物品・サービス・供応等、特別の利益. I am really not sure as to how to translate 社会相当性を超える. So far I have "appropriateness" for 相当性... Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
One of these consists of offering the policy holder or insured party a certain type of benefits: 社会相当性を超える物品・サービス・供応等、特別の利益. I am really not sure as to how to translate 社会相当性を超える. So far I have "appropriateness" for 相当性... Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +1 | (exceed) social appropriateness / the norm of social appropriatness |
Joyce A
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| 3 +2 | social standard |
TCN6YR
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| 4 | social suitability |
seika
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| 3 | social relativity |
Yumico Tanaka (X)
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| 4 -1 | social adequacy |
cinefil
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Proposed translations
+1
3 hrs
Selected
(exceed) social appropriateness / the norm of social appropriatness
----- I feel that what you originally suggested with the word “appropriateness” suits the context very well since you are translating text on various violations of rules. Violations of rules is about inappropriate behavior.
----- Therefore, in your context, I believe that 社会相当性を超える物品・サービス・供応等、特別の利益… can be described as “goods (etc.) that exceed social appropriateness” or “goods (etc.) that exceed the norm of social appropriateness.”
----- Dictionary definition of 相当 with example:
それは相当の処置であった。It was an appropriate [a suitable] measure. (Source Shogakukan Japanese – English Dictionary)
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Note added at 3 hrs (2010-09-26 07:33:25 GMT)
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Please pardon the spelling of the second appropriateness in my answer. It should have an extra "e."
----- Therefore, in your context, I believe that 社会相当性を超える物品・サービス・供応等、特別の利益… can be described as “goods (etc.) that exceed social appropriateness” or “goods (etc.) that exceed the norm of social appropriateness.”
----- Dictionary definition of 相当 with example:
それは相当の処置であった。It was an appropriate [a suitable] measure. (Source Shogakukan Japanese – English Dictionary)
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Note added at 3 hrs (2010-09-26 07:33:25 GMT)
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Please pardon the spelling of the second appropriateness in my answer. It should have an extra "e."
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you very much and I apologize for the delay. I chose to translate the term as "norm of social appropriateness" as it seemed to best fit the context of the translation."
14 mins
social relativity
There are hits for the term, however I am not sure if it fits the context you have.
We translators may not have utter responsibility in choosing a term unless it was obvious or clear, while we can offer selections if possible.
This is one of them.
We translators may not have utter responsibility in choosing a term unless it was obvious or clear, while we can offer selections if possible.
This is one of them.
Note from asker:
| Thank you very much and my apologies for the delay. "Appropriateness", suggested by another answerer, seemed to fit the context better. |
+2
23 mins
social standard
相当性 can be translated as reasonableness, but standard would also work for this, in my opinion. Something unreasonably expensive.
Note from asker:
| Thank you very much and I apologize for the delay. |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Katalin Horváth McClure
: This is about gifts or similar things that exceed what is considered normal, acceptable by the society/culture, in other words, something that is considered excessive by social standards.
11 mins
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Thank you!
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| agree |
Soonthon LUPKITARO(Ph.D.)
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Thank you!
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-1
10 mins
Japanese term (edited):
社会的相当性
social adequacy
The new theory of negligence, breach of duty and objective to avoid risk (deviation from the social adequacy) to emphasize the subjective predictability relative would not have focus, however, vague sense of insecurity in the barrel was not enough concern, some concrete predictability was assumed to be necessary.
http://data.lullar.com/過失犯
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Note added at 11 mins (2010-09-26 04:04:45 GMT)
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2001 年12 月のレーケン欧州理事会は、このOMC を年金分野に導入することを決定するとともに、年金制度の3 重点政策分野、すなわち社会的妥当性（social adequacy）、財政的持続可能性（financial sustainability）、現代化（modernisation）の3 分野にかかわる11 のEU 共通目標を承認した
http://www.nanzan-u.ac.jp/EUROPE/kanko/documents/02oyatsu-16...
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Note added at 1 hr (2010-09-26 05:02:48 GMT)
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http://www.actuaries.jp/comm/nenri/Supplement_20020129-1.pdf
http://data.lullar.com/過失犯
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Note added at 11 mins (2010-09-26 04:04:45 GMT)
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2001 年12 月のレーケン欧州理事会は、このOMC を年金分野に導入することを決定するとともに、年金制度の3 重点政策分野、すなわち社会的妥当性（social adequacy）、財政的持続可能性（financial sustainability）、現代化（modernisation）の3 分野にかかわる11 のEU 共通目標を承認した
http://www.nanzan-u.ac.jp/EUROPE/kanko/documents/02oyatsu-16...
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Note added at 1 hr (2010-09-26 05:02:48 GMT)
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http://www.actuaries.jp/comm/nenri/Supplement_20020129-1.pdf
Note from asker:
| Thank you very much and I apologize for the delay. I have to agree with Yumico, however. |
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Yumico Tanaka (X)
: 妥当性と相当性とはまた違うんではないかと思います。。。
6 mins
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13 hrs
social suitability
another option..
Note from asker:
| Thank you and sorry about being so late! |
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