Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

double-pointed

Persian (Farsi) translation:

دو سر

Added to glossary by SeiTT
Mar 20, 2012 13:59
12 yrs ago
English term

double-pointed

English to Persian (Farsi) Art/Literary Religion The sword ذو الفقار
Hi,

How do you describe the sword ذو الفقار?

I.e. how do you say 'double-pointed'?

I refer to the two, forked points at the end of the sword on the right-hand edge of this picture:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dhulfiqar.png
On the left-hand edge of the picture we have the hilt (i.e. the handle of the sword).

I do not refer to the edge (or edges) – presumably ‘double-edged’ is ‘دولبه’ or ‘دو‌دم’.

Best,

Simon

Discussion

SeiTT (asker) Mar 21, 2012:
Many thanks for the clarification, Reza.
Reza Ebrahimi Mar 21, 2012:
we can not use NOK for shamshir
SeiTT (asker) Mar 21, 2012:
How about ‘شمشیر دونوک’? It has recently occurred to me that it's very hard to draw a sharp blade (or, in this case, a sharp double blade), so perhaps this sword was stylized as having two points to indicate this.

However, if we decide to take literally the shape as depicted here at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dhulfiqar.png and forget about what it represents and why it is drawn in the way that it is, I'm beginning to think that Ahmad’s suggestion seems perfect as ‘سر شمشیر’ means ‘the point of a sword’.

So, ‘شمشیر دوسر’, certainly – also, how about ‘شمشیر دونوک’? Would that be okay too?

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دو سر

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شیر در اسلام هم بوده و بی شک استفاده شیر بهمراه شمشیر دو سر ذوالفقار که شمشیر امام اول شیعه است در زمان صفویه فقط به این دلیل بوده اما همانطور که گفتم شیر ممکن است که در گذشته هم بوده باشد ...

يك شمشير دو سر ذوالفقار شكل كه همون موقع ظاهرا اورده بود خونه و مخالفت اهالي خونه برگردونده بودش.
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دو دم/ دو لبه

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دو تیغه یا دو زبانه

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Double-Bladed Sword/THE BIFURCATED SWORD

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Double-Bladed Sword: (http://www.pdmiran.org/2012/01/suicidal-mystics-with-nukes.h...
Shi'as believe that Muhammad al-Mahdi will reappear when the world has fallen into chaos and civil war emerges between the human race for no reason. At this time, it is believed, half of the true believers will ride from Yemen carrying white flags to Mecca, while the other half will ride from Karbala, in Iraq, carrying black flags to Mecca. At this time, Muhammad al-Mahdi will come wielding God's Sword, the Blade of Evil's Bane, Zulfiqar (Arabic: ذو الفقار, ðū l-fiqār), the Double-Bladed Sword.


THE BIFURCATED SWORD: (http://iranology.persianblog.ir/1387/5/12/)

ذوالفقار (DHULFAGHAR)، شمشیر دو شاخه ی (THE BIFURCATED SWORD) حضرت علی موضوع فصل نه است. در فصل ده مطالبی پیرامون شمشیرهای راست تیغه STRAIGHT SWORDS)) ایرانی، شمشیرزنی، و توضیحاتی پیرامون نماد اژدها آمده است. فصل یازده مربوط به شمشیرهای نظامی دوره قاجار است.


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Note added at 10 mins (2012-03-20 14:09:44 GMT)
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Sorry, I forget to provide my suggestion:
شمشیر دو شاخه
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