Jul 27, 2013 20:30
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English term

performance based component

English to Serbian Tech/Engineering Construction / Civil Engineering Road construction
U tekstu o koji se bavi "Assistance with launching performance based maintenance contracts", pominju se odredjeni inspekcijksi nadzori i njihovo planiranje, pa ovaj odeljak kaze:

These inspections should be conducted jointly in the first month of the contract. Its purpose would be to provide a full picture of the scale of the maintenance problem and identify the defects, included in any performance based component, which should be corrected, at a unit cost rate, before the performance standards are applied to a particular section or kilometer.

Ma koliko se trudim, zato sto nemam iskustva u ovoj oblasti ne shvatam sta su to performance based components ovdje? Da li je ovo identifikovanje ostecenja koja postoje u bilo kojoj komponenti puta koji se odrzava na osnovu performansi...nisam pametna...

Discussion

Daryo Jul 29, 2013:
u tom pravcu sam i razmišljao; ako pogledate različita značenja za "performance" (theatrical performance; performance of a contract, performance of a sportist) zajednički koren je "izvršavanje" (ili tkz. "vršenje" svega i svačega, to je upravo "performance of" / "to perform s.t."); zato sam i predložio "izvršavanje ugovora";
u svakodnevnoj upotrebi je često dodata nijansa "uspešnog izvršenja" ali to je samo jedna od varijanti značenja - krajnje nemarno otaljavaljanje nekog posla je isto "performance".
Vesna Maširević Jul 28, 2013:
Mislim da treba razmišljati u ovom pravcu: performance-based - Assessment technique involving the gathering of data though systematic observation of a behavior or process and evaluating that data based on a clearly articulated set of performance criteria to serve as the basis for evaluative judgments. http://assessment.truman.edu/glossary.asp
(komponente zasnovane na performansama)

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komponenta (ugovora) zasnovana na učinku

Daryo je dobro detektovao značenje, ali prevod bi morao biti malo drugačiji:

(...) pružanje celovite slike reda veličine(težine/ozbiljnosti) problema održavanja i utvrđivanje nepravilnosti, obuhvaćenih u bilo kojoj od komponenata (ugovora) zasnovanih na učinku, koje treba otkloniti po jediničnoj ceni pre nego što se primene standardi učinka na određeni deo(odeljak/trasu) ili kilometar (puta).
Peer comment(s):

agree Aleksandra Lazić
2 hrs
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disagree Zorica Knezevic : U ugovornim odnosima u gradjevinarstvu, defects se prevodi kao "nedostatak" a performance se odnosi na garanciju za valjano/dobro izvršenje posla.
3 hrs
Ok za nedostatak. Mislim da „performance” ne implicira nikakvu garanciju (niti garantovan rezultat), već samo postignut i merljiv rezultat na osnovu koga se donosi odluka o daljem radu (na održavanju). Garancija nije isto što i standard kome se teži.
agree Veronica Prpic Uhing
7 hrs
Hvala lepo
neutral Daryo : problem sa "učinkom" je da previše asocira na plaćanje pojedinačnog radnika "po učinku" tj. po osnovu pukog broja proizvedenih komada; ovde je u pitanju "pravilno izvršavanje ugovornih obaveza" - mnogo složeniji pojam
14 hrs
Asocira, ali nije. Ovde imamo ostvareni učinak odn. stepen izvršenja usluge. Recimo, ne ide „nivo usluge”, jer on zavisi od toga šta investitor odabere. Izvršavanje obaveza može biti pravilno, ali nedovoljno/nepotpuno (možda grešim?). Eh te finese... :)
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komponenta plate koja ovise o učinku/komponenta plate zasnovana na učinku/rezultatima rada


DEFINICIJA: “Performance Based Component” means the component of the Initiative that provides Performance Based Incentives to Applicants who install, implement or undertake and complete Eligible Performance Based Measures in the Project.
(Source: RESIDENTIAL NEW CONSTRUCTION AND MAJOR RENOVATION INITIATIVE 2011 – 2014)

ENG: performance based component
DUTCH: prestaties-gebaseerde component van loon
SRB: komponenta plate zasnovana na učinku/rezultatima rada

komponenta plate koja ovise o učinku
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd...

∆ plaćanje po učinku pov. način plaćanja u stalnom radnom odnosu prema obračunu o rezultatima rada svakog zaposlenog
Peer comment(s):

disagree Daryo : the ST is not about paying an employee but a contractor, can't be plata/salary
6 hrs
Nek to onda bude 'zarada"!
disagree Zorica Knezevic : ne misli se na zaradu ni platu. promašili ste kontekst.
23 hrs
OK! Agree! Greetings!
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11 hrs

... utvrdi/uoči nedostatke , koji su spadaju u kriterijume dobrog izvršenja ugovora, ..

These inspections should be conducted jointly in the first month of the contract. Its purpose would be to provide a full picture of the scale of the maintenance problem and identify the defects, included in any performance based component, which should be corrected, at a unit cost rate, before the performance standards are applied to a particular section or kilometer.

... utvrdi/uoči nedostatke , koji su spadaju u kriterijume dobrog izvršenja ugovora, .., ..


the ST is about "performance based contracts" for road maintenance; so
"included in any performance based component" means
"included in any performance based component of the maintenance contract, i.e. any road defect that has an impact on a "performance criterion" specified in the contract.

Ne znam da li postoji neki ustaljeni izraz, ali je to po smislu.




"“A performance-based highway maintenance contract is a contract under which the contractor undertakes to plan, program, design, and implement maintenance activities in order to achieve specified short and long term road condition standards…”(Frost and Lithgow 1998, p. 2"
[http://tcm-2.org/presentations/Tuesday/115_PerformanceRequir...]

B. Road Maintenance–from force account to performance based contracts (p.17)
[http://siteresources.worldbank.org/INTTRANSPORT/Resources/33...]

Workshop on Performance–Based Contracting for Road Maintenance
[http://www.carecprogram.org/uploads/events/2012/PBMC-Trainin...]

[http://vianordica.congress.is/assets/4 -Erling KristVia Nord...]

[http://reason.org/files/344b410e2504a3e41d4f08174311e2b2.pdf]

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ispravka
... utvrdi/uoči nedostatke , koji spadaju u kriterijume dobrog izvršenja ugovora

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Note added at 1 day12 hrs (2013-07-29 08:54:58 GMT)
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ili


utvrdi/uoči nedostatke , koji spadaju u/utiču na tehničke kriterijume dobrog izvršenja ugovora


" ... Tehnički parametri
U okviru standarda izgradnje i održavanja za JPP projekte treba definisati tehničke kriterijume i odgovarajuće nivoe usluge.

Tehnički indikatori uključuju:

--- Indikatore bezbednosti saobraćaja vezane za vrstu i broj saobraćajnih nezgoda.
--- Indikatore iskorišćenosti kapaciteta i nivoa usluge
--- Indikatora stanja pojednih elemenata saobraćajnice
i
--- Pragovi intervencija (npr. parametre stanja pri kojima je potrebno izvršiti
rehabilitaciju kolovozne konstrukcije)

Vremenski intervali u kojima je potrebno sanirati pojedina oštećenja (npr. maksimalni dozvoljeni vremenski interval između pojave udarne rupe i njenog krpljenja).

Tehnički indikatori moraju biti definisani na nivou Idejnog projekta."
[http://www.putevi-srbije.rs/pdf/prezentacija_17-04-12.pdf]

Peer comment(s):

agree Zorica Knezevic : tačno upotrebljeni termini.
14 hrs
Хвала!
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Reference comments

1 day 3 hrs
Reference:

http://www.putevi-srbije.rs/pdf/prezentacija_17-04-12.pdf
strana 18. Vam može biti od pomoći, mada je ceo dokument dobar.
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree Daryo : veoma dobar izvor termina!
9 hrs
agree Aleksander Vasiljevic : Ima puno korisnih stvari, ali nikako ne volEm ubačene prevedene delove. Prosto iritiraju izrazi tipa „racio”, „kumulativ”, engleske skraćenice, neprilagođeni brojevi, suvišna velika slova... Ne bih se uzdao 100% ni u terminologiju. Banana smo pa to ti je.
1 day 2 hrs
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2 days 13 hrs
Reference:

PMBC

Prilog za refencu: "PMBC (Performance Based Maintenance Contracting) - reduces the cost of road maintenance by applying well-organized and time saving work methods and technologies".

http://www.waset.org/journals/waset/v62/v62-64.pdf

Moguća rešenja za performance: performansa, primena dobre prakse.
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