مدير إداري

This question was posted a few weeks ago and Shazly's answer was sellected.

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In Arabic, the controversy concerning the \"Director\" & \"Manager\" has not been settled yet. Although each of them has a different function, they are both translated as مدير
The situation is made worse when we add another title such as \"Managing Director\". I have seen this translated as مدير عام- المدير المشرف - عضو مجلس الإدارة المشرف
and so on. I wish we could settle on one translation for each of these terms.

On a previous discussion of this issue, I like a suggestion made my our esteemed colleague Oudoud Alomrani. He mentioned that in Morocco they use مدير for the \"director\" and \"مشرف\" or \"مدبر\" for the \"manager\". I wish we could agree on something along this line. Thank you.

This is what Abu-Ghazaleh suggests. I think we had debated this title before. Look it up in the archives.

usually his the chairman with direct authorities and resposibilities over the general manager.

المدير المسؤول

رئيس مجلس الإدارة Managing Director

Managing Director is the Board of director's representative of actual management, but he/she is not necessarily to be the general manager. Some corporates have both titles.

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Also, it is not necessarily for a Managing Director to be the President of the Board. There can be both titles in the same organization.

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Throughout my experience, I have encountered cases in which a company is administered by a Board of Directors, among which One is appointed Managing Director. At the same time, that ManDir is not totally dedicated for the business as he/she might be responsible for another biz. This is compensated by a GM whose major decions are liable to validation or invalidation by the ManDir. In this case, both titles are working with different job description.
Liguistically, as far as I see it, العضو المنتدب أو عضو مجلس الإدارة المنتدب is the most realistic and close to the liguistic fact of the English.

I used to work for a regional company with offices in three Arab capitals, kuwait, riyadh & cairo. Cairo and riyadh offices were managed by a GM while the headoffice, in kuwait, used to be run by the ManDir. Here is a company, run by a Board of Directors, with one as ManDir, and both GMs were not members of the Board. Iwish i was useful.

Managing director is the term used for the chief executive of many limited companies in the United Kingdom, Commonwealth and some other English speaking countries. The title reflects his or her role as both a member of the Board of Directors but also as the senior manager.

At investment banks and other financial institutions, "managing director" does not refer to the chief executive but can rather refer to the head of a major business unit.

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Note added at 1936 days (2009-01-27 21:32:50 GMT) Post-grading
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بالاستناد إلى ما هو مطبق في المملكة المتحدة وكما يظهره تعريف وكيبيديا، يجب التمييز بين ما إذا كان الشخص مديراً في مؤسسة تجارية عادية أم في مصرف ومن هنا يأتي الفرق والله أعلم