Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
Enrollment Center
Dutch translation:
registratiecentrum
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Aug 28, 2014 00:23
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English term
Not a translator
Enrollment Center
Non-PRO
English to Dutch
Bus/Financial
IT (Information Technology)
voice recognition
How should the term "Enrollment Center" be translated in Dutch?
English: I was unable to connect you to B I Voice I D Enrollment Center. Please report this error to your officer.
Dutch: Het lukt me niet u te verbinden met het B I Voice ID Enrollment Center. Rapporteer deze fout alstublieft aan uw ambtenaar.
This is one suggestion I received, but the translator wasn't too sure about it:
You could translate it as 'Inschrijvingscentrum' but it wouldn't be a word that is commonly used.
English: I was unable to connect you to B I Voice I D Enrollment Center. Please report this error to your officer.
Dutch: Het lukt me niet u te verbinden met het B I Voice ID Enrollment Center. Rapporteer deze fout alstublieft aan uw ambtenaar.
This is one suggestion I received, but the translator wasn't too sure about it:
You could translate it as 'Inschrijvingscentrum' but it wouldn't be a word that is commonly used.
Proposed translations
(Dutch)
| 3 +1 | registratiecentrum |
freekfluweel
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| 4 | inschrijfpunt |
Lianne van de Ven
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| 4 -1 | sprekerregistratiecentrum; sprekerregistratiepunt |
Michael Beijer
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| 4 -1 | inschrijving centrum |
Abdisalaam Faraah
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Change log
Aug 28, 2014 00:49: writeaway changed "Field (specific)" from "Names (personal, company)" to "IT (Information Technology)" , "Field (write-in)" from "Proper Nouns - Departments" to "voice recognition"
Proposed translations
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7 hrs
freekfluweel
Netherlands
Netherlands
Native in Dutch
Netherlands
M.Sc. in Architecture, B.A.
Native in: Dutch 
Works in: Dutch to German, German to Dutch, English to Dutch, and 5 more.
Related KudoZ points
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20
Selected
registratiecentrum
or:
afdeling registratie
Each speaker recognition system has two phases: Enrollment and verification.
registratie en verificatie
"registratie" covers both calls from unknown clients (a recording will be made) and known clients (immediate re-direction to the verfication phase)
afdeling registratie
Each speaker recognition system has two phases: Enrollment and verification.
registratie en verificatie
"registratie" covers both calls from unknown clients (a recording will be made) and known clients (immediate re-direction to the verfication phase)
Peer comment(s):
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writeaway
: I'd suggest keeping the English since it's such a specific term and perhaps adding the word 'stem' (ie stem registratiecentrum) to make it clearer in Dutch.
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Zit wat in!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you! :) "
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Lianne van de Ven
United States
United States
Native in Dutch
Works in field
United States
Experienced, reliable, detail-oriented
Native in: Dutch 
Works in: English to Dutch, Dutch to English
Related KudoZ points
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36
inschrijfpunt
Of aanmeldpunt. Dutch like 'punten' (=locations).
Aanmeldpunt has somewhat of the connotation of a hotline (=meldpunt), hence the 'aan' preceding it.
Inschrijfpunt is really a location for enrollments.
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PS: I would not translate "officer" as ambtenaar, but rather as representative or contact person unless it really involves a government official.
Aanmeldpunt has somewhat of the connotation of a hotline (=meldpunt), hence the 'aan' preceding it.
Inschrijfpunt is really a location for enrollments.
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PS: I would not translate "officer" as ambtenaar, but rather as representative or contact person unless it really involves a government official.
Peer comment(s):
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writeaway
: enrollment is used in a special context (voice recognition)/it doesn't mean enroll in the sense of sign up. I looked it up because I was curious as to what they meant by enrollment center. Not a term I'm familiar with.
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How does that affect the translation in this case?
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Michael Beijer
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Experienced technical/patent translator
Native in: English (Variants: US, British)
Works in: Dutch to English, Flemish to English, English to Dutch, and 2 more.
Related KudoZ points
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12
English term (edited):
enrollment center; enrolment center
sprekerregistratiecentrum; sprekerregistratiepunt
See my discussion entries.
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speaker enrollment = sprekerregistratie
In this context, ‘enrollment’ = ‘speaker enrollment’ = sprekerregistratie.
See e.g.:
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‘OPMERKING:
Als u het sprekerregistratieproces niet binnen 3 minuten na het indrukken van de SPEECH-toets begint, wordt de sprekerregistratiefunctie uitgeschakeld.
De gesproken begeleiding zegt “Speaker enrollment has timed out” (Sprekerregistratie is uitgeschakeld)”. Het systeem laat een pieptoon horen en de spraakherkenningsmodus wordt uitgeschakeld.’
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‘3. Als u reeds een sprekerregistratieproces hebt voltooid, zegt de gesproken begeleiding ofwel “Enrollment is enabled (Registratie is ingeschakeld). Would you like to disable or retrain?” (Wilt u deze uitschakelen of opnieuw aanleren?), ofwel “Enrollment is disabled. (Registratie is uitgeschakeld). Would you like to enable or retrain?” (Wilt u deze inschakelen of opnieuw aanleren?).’
(http://www.mitsubishi-outlander-phev.nl/pdf/gebruikershandle... )
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I'm not 100% sure what kind of center they mean though, in ‘B I Voice I D Enrollment Center’.
(by the way, shouldn't this be: ‘BI Voice ID Enrollment Center’
How about … ‘sprekerregistratiecentrum’ or ‘sprekerregistratiepunt’?
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Note added at 10 hrs (2014-08-28 11:08:31 GMT)
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speaker enrollment = sprekerregistratie
In this context, ‘enrollment’ = ‘speaker enrollment’ = sprekerregistratie.
See e.g.:
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‘OPMERKING:
Als u het sprekerregistratieproces niet binnen 3 minuten na het indrukken van de SPEECH-toets begint, wordt de sprekerregistratiefunctie uitgeschakeld.
De gesproken begeleiding zegt “Speaker enrollment has timed out” (Sprekerregistratie is uitgeschakeld)”. Het systeem laat een pieptoon horen en de spraakherkenningsmodus wordt uitgeschakeld.’
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‘3. Als u reeds een sprekerregistratieproces hebt voltooid, zegt de gesproken begeleiding ofwel “Enrollment is enabled (Registratie is ingeschakeld). Would you like to disable or retrain?” (Wilt u deze uitschakelen of opnieuw aanleren?), ofwel “Enrollment is disabled. (Registratie is uitgeschakeld). Would you like to enable or retrain?” (Wilt u deze inschakelen of opnieuw aanleren?).’
(http://www.mitsubishi-outlander-phev.nl/pdf/gebruikershandle... )
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I'm not 100% sure what kind of center they mean though, in ‘B I Voice I D Enrollment Center’.
(by the way, shouldn't this be: ‘BI Voice ID Enrollment Center’
How about … ‘sprekerregistratiecentrum’ or ‘sprekerregistratiepunt’?
Example sentence:
De gesproken begeleiding zegt “Speaker enrollment has timed out” (Sprekerregistratie is uitgeschakeld)
Als u reeds een sprekerregistratieproces hebt voltooid, zegt de gesproken begeleiding ofwel “Enrollment is enabled (Registratie is ingeschakeld).
Peer comment(s):
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freekfluweel
: Andere ref kunnen vinden dan die van Mitsubishi? Is GEEN Nederlands! / Is geen spelfout maar gewoon geen NLs!
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‘Enrollment Center’ is ook geen standaard Engels. Je hoeft niet te schreeuwen, ik hoor je heus wel. / trouwens, volgens mij is ‘sprekerregistratiecentrum’ best wel NL hoor! / Peace be with you, dear brother.
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Abdisalaam Faraah
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Certified Translation Services UK
Native in: Somali
Works in: English to Somali, Somali to English
inschrijving centrum
I also answered this in Somali; and I hope this helps since I speak some Dutch!
Peer comment(s):
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Natasha Ziada (X)
: Sorry, this is not relevant to the context at all (see discussion) plus spelled incorrectly.//What am I 'on' about? Please see discussion for the relevant context plus the spelling issue - grammar rather - is pretty basic Dutch.
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What is not relevant to the context? This same question is on many languages included Somali language. I also speak Dutch. What are you on about? Can you tell me which of the two words is misspelled?
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writeaway
: your translation is wrong in the context. It's not about spelling
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bedankt
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Reference comments
19 mins
Reference:
context
Biometric Voice Verification
BI VoiceID, powered by AnyTrax, offers accurate, reliable
monitoring of location compliance using only a telephone.
Product Overview
BI VoiceID, powered by AnyTrax, relies only on a telephone to effectively
monitor clients – no additional equipment is necessary. Officers don’t have to manage inventory, perform installations, or recover lost equipment.
Clients may be enrolled in the VoiceID system in just a few minutes.
During enrollment, VoiceID creates a biometric voiceprint for each
client. This voiceprint is then used to verify client identity during each
VoiceID check-in. Based on agency protocols and a client’s schedule,
VoiceID makes random and pre-scheduled outbound calls (from system
to client) and accepts pre-scheduled inbound calls (from client to system).
VoiceID initiates outbound calls to the client’s home phone (or an alternate
number such as a cell phone) and clients make inbound calls from any
pre-authorized phone number
https://www.uscommunities.org/fileadmin/hb/usc/Suppliers/BI_...
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Variants of speaker recognition
Each speaker recognition system has two phases: Enrollment and verification. During enrollment, the speaker's voice is recorded and typically a number of features are extracted to form a voice print, template, or model. In the verification phase, a speech sample or "utterance" is compared against a previously created voice print. For identification systems, the utterance is compared against multiple voice prints in order to determine the best match(es) while verification systems compare an utterance against a single voice print. Because of the process involved, verification is faster than identification.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaker_recognition
BI VoiceID, powered by AnyTrax, offers accurate, reliable
monitoring of location compliance using only a telephone.
Product Overview
BI VoiceID, powered by AnyTrax, relies only on a telephone to effectively
monitor clients – no additional equipment is necessary. Officers don’t have to manage inventory, perform installations, or recover lost equipment.
Clients may be enrolled in the VoiceID system in just a few minutes.
During enrollment, VoiceID creates a biometric voiceprint for each
client. This voiceprint is then used to verify client identity during each
VoiceID check-in. Based on agency protocols and a client’s schedule,
VoiceID makes random and pre-scheduled outbound calls (from system
to client) and accepts pre-scheduled inbound calls (from client to system).
VoiceID initiates outbound calls to the client’s home phone (or an alternate
number such as a cell phone) and clients make inbound calls from any
pre-authorized phone number
https://www.uscommunities.org/fileadmin/hb/usc/Suppliers/BI_...
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Note added at 23 mins (2014-08-28 00:47:23 GMT)
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Variants of speaker recognition
Each speaker recognition system has two phases: Enrollment and verification. During enrollment, the speaker's voice is recorded and typically a number of features are extracted to form a voice print, template, or model. In the verification phase, a speech sample or "utterance" is compared against a previously created voice print. For identification systems, the utterance is compared against multiple voice prints in order to determine the best match(es) while verification systems compare an utterance against a single voice print. Because of the process involved, verification is faster than identification.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaker_recognition
Peer comments on this reference comment:
| agree |
Natasha Ziada (X)
9 hrs
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| agree |
Michael Beijer
: it's similar to when Dragon creates a ‘User Profile’ for you (‘stemprofielen aanmaken’ in NL); you're basically training the software to identify you as a specific person
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| agree |
Barend van Zadelhoff
: Goed werk.
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Discussion
I would have to say I'm with Freek on this one though: without -s doesn't sound quite right to (my) native ears. It sounds a bit German. But maybe that's just me :)
"'Samenstelling' is een belangrijk begrip, want een basisregel van de Nederlandse spelling is dat samenstellingen aaneen worden geschreven. Bij korte samenstellingen gaat het aaneenschrijven meestal goed. Fouten als rug zak en voet bal komen niet zo vaak voor. Maar bij talloze langere woorden, zoals rugzaktoerisme en voetbalverslaggevingsjargon, gaat het vaak mis: veel mensen schrijven (delen van) deze samenstellingen ten onrechte los. Het veelvuldig voorkomen van deze fouten heeft zelfs geleid tot de oprichting van een website: Signalering Onjuist Spatiegebruik (SOS)."
But then again if you all agree on this, I am willing to accept.
Thank you all.
https://onzetaal.nl/taaladvies/advies/tussen-s
-> inschrijvingScentrum (ONE word!)
Zie: https://onzetaal.nl/taaladvies/advies/samenstelling
Waarom kan het niet zijn twee woorden: “inschrijving centrum”
Jij zegt:
Een Nederlander zou het dan over "sprekersregistratie" hebben +
Dat is toch geen reden een slechte vertaling over te nemen en deze dan hier als antwoord te deponeren!
…maar ben je er 100% zeker van dat "sprekerregistratiecentrum" fout is?
Ik zie ook overal online "cliëntregistratiesysteem", maar nergens "cliëntsregistratiesysteem"? Ook fout, of mis ik hier iets?
Het eerste deel als afzonderlijk woord eindigt niet op een sisklank en het tweede deel begint niet met een sisklank, maar ik hoor tussen de twee delen (spreker + registratiecentrum) geen "s". Jij wel?
Kan iemand mij precies uitleggen waarom het fout is? I'm bad enough at English grammar and spelling, but my Dutch grammar skills are virtually non-existent.
* https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tussen-s_in_de_Nederlandse_spe...
That is, ‘BI Voice ID Enrollment Center’ (or ‘Enrollment Center’, or some other combination) might actually be present in the various UI stings, etc.
One thing is certain: we need some more context!
‘BI VoiceID-registratiesysteem’ sounds pretty good.
Ik denk dat deze mogelijkheid opengehouden moet worden
Clients may be enrolled in the VoiceID system in just a few minutes.
During enrollment, VoiceID creates a biometric voiceprint for each
client.
BI VoiceID-registratiesysteem/centrale ?
I think the piece of text we are being asked to translate is what the software says to a person (= a client) calling the number, if the system is unable to connect the person to the right person/system. They are told to contact their correctional officer and report it.
Maggie said ‘Enrollment Center is the telephone application to sign up for the program.’, so as I said elsewhere, ‘Enrollment Center’ (or ‘BI Voice ID Enrollment Center’) is in fact a piece of software (an ‘application’, in Maggie's words).
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/english_to_somali/names_personal_c...
‘I was unable to connect you to BI Voice ID Enrollment Center. Please report this error to your officer.’
That is, it says:
‘unable to connect you to BI Voice ID Enrollment Center’
not
‘unable to connect you to the BI Voice ID Enrollment Center’
if this isn't merely a mistake, this would seem to indicate that ‘BI Voice ID Enrollment Center’ is actually a piece of software, rather than ... ‘The BI Voice ID Enrollment Center’, as in a more centre-like centre.
BI VoiceID-registratiecentrale (vgl. telefooncentrale)
Ik vraag me af het hier een fysiek centrum of fysieke afdeling betreft.
En zou je center hier niet als 'systeem' moeten opvatten?
BI VoiceID-registratiesysteem ?
Overigens betekent 'speaker-recognition' = stemherkenning in het Nederlands
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stemherkenning
Proud to be Dutch are you? That's nice.
or even: cliëntenstemprofielaanmaakcentrum ;-)
https://www.google.nl/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&es...
Zonder tussen-s is het geen NLs:
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tussen-s_in_de_Nederlandse_spel...
the voice data of the speaker (the ‘spreker’) is registered (registreren) in the system
See: ‘Established in 1978, BI Incorporated (BI) is a wholly-owned subsidiary of The GEO Group (NYSE: GEO), a global leader in the delivery of correctional, detention, and residential treatment services to federal, state, and local government agencies. BI provides a full continuum of offender monitoring technologies and community reentry services for parolees, probationers, pretrial defendants and illegal aliens involved in the U.S. immigration court process. BI also owns and operates an ISO-certified national monitoring center, providing 24/7 expert support supervision services exclusively to governmental agencies.’ (http://bi.com/ )
‘Clients may be enrolled in the VoiceID system in just a few minutes.’
‘During enrollment, VoiceID creates a biometric voiceprint for each client.’
I'd say one of these might not be such a bad translation:
cliëntregistratiecentrum
cliënt-registratiecentrum
cliëntenregistratiecentrum
cliënten-registratiecentrum
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both ‘stem’ and ‘spreker’ are more general, and in line with usage such as in Dragon (‘User Profiles’) and other speech recognition software
I suppose it will depend on whether you want to focus on the fact that it is the voice of the client (or ‘offender’) being registered, or the client him or herself.
if the former: stemregistratiecentrum/stem-registratiecentrum
if the latter: cliëntregistratiecentrum/cliënt-registratiecentrum (or spreker or gebruiker)
You won't find many refs online because it isn't a common term. As writeaway said, it's a pretty specific way of using the word ‘enrollment’ in English. It might just be best to leave it in English, followed by a translation in brackets.
‘sprekerregistratiecentrum’ and ‘sprekerregistratiepunt’ are merely my attempt at such a translation. maybe add a hyphen somewhere ... ‘spreker-registratiecentrum’ ‘spreker registratiepunt’ ? or write them separate ... ‘spreker registratiecentrum’ ‘spreker registratiepunt’, similar to writeaways's suggestion ‘stem registratiecentrum’.
basically, we need to put sth in front of the word registratiecentrum/registratiepunt, which will need to become clear from the context:
stem registratiecentrum, spreker registratiecentrum, gebruiker registratiecentrum, klant registratiecentrum, etc.
Als laatste zou men een stem kunnen synthetiseren, maar ook dat kan worden gedetecteerd. Bovendien kan dit sowieso niet aan de hand van een voice model Daar is een "voice model", in tegenstelling tot een normale vingerafdruk-template zoals nu veel gebruikt wordt, niet geschikt voor." (https://www.security.nl/posting/24772/Stemherkenning: biomet... )
Yep, maar zo werkt het al jaren. Je doet eerst een "enrollment", ofwel de initiele training. Dan moet je bijvoorbeeld 5 minuutjes wat teksten oplezen voor de PC. De herkenner wordt zo getraind.
Daarna, tijdens dagelijks gebruik, stelt het systeem continu zijn modellen bij om zich steeds beter aan te passen aan de spreker. Zo werkt Dragon Naturally Speaking in ieder geval al jaren." (http://tweakers.net/nieuws/24540/toms-hardware-guide-praat-t... )
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"V: Waar is de knop Enrollment (Inschrijven) die in de handleiding wordt genoemd?
A: Op pagina 5 en 17 van de gamehandleiding staat dat je de knop Enrollment moet gebruiken om van gamer te wisselen. Die knop heet nu Swap Player." (http://www.xbox.com/nl-BE/Kinect/PrivacyandOnlineSafety + http://www.xbox.com/nl-BE/Kinect/PrivacyandOnlineSafety#kine... )
See e.g.:
‘OPMERKING:
Als u het sprekerregistratieproces niet binnen 3 minuten na het indrukken van de SPEECH-toets begint, wordt de sprekerregistratiefunctie uitgeschakeld.
De gesproken begeleiding zegt “Speaker enrollment has timed out” (Sprekerregistratie is uitgeschakeld)”. Het systeem laat een pieptoon horen en de spraakherkenningsmodus wordt uitgeschakeld.’
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‘3. Als u reeds een sprekerregistratieproces hebt voltooid, zegt de gesproken begeleiding ofwel “Enrollment is enabled (Registratie is ingeschakeld). Would you like to disable or retrain?” (Wilt u deze uitschakelen of opnieuw aanleren?), ofwel “Enrollment is disabled. (Registratie is uitgeschakeld). Would you like to enable or retrain?” (Wilt u deze inschakelen of opnieuw aanleren?).’
(http://www.mitsubishi-outlander-phev.nl/pdf/gebruikershandle... )
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I'm not sure what kind of center they mean though, in ‘B I Voice I D Enrollment Center’.
(by the way, shouldn't this be: ‘BI Voice ID Enrollment Center’
How about … ‘sprekerregistratiecentrum’ or ‘sprekerregistratiepunt’?