Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

red 40 lake

French translation:

Rouge allura AC

Added to glossary by claude-andrew
Apr 26, 2015 10:46
9 yrs ago
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English term

red 40 lake

English to French Tech/Engineering Chemistry; Chem Sci/Eng Food dyes
Artificial color: blue 1 lake
Artificial color: red 40 lake
Artificial color: yellow 5 lake
Artificial color: yellow 6 lake

voir http://www.red40.com/pages/chemistry.html
Proposed translations (French)
4 +2 Rouge allura AC
5 rouge 40 lake
4 E120 cochenille (rouge 40)
5 -1 E129
Change log

May 5, 2015 10:23: claude-andrew Created KOG entry

Discussion

Tony M Apr 26, 2015:
Glossary Don't know if you've tried a term search, but I have a vague recollection we have had the term 'lake' before — it might be worth trying to search on just that part of your term, as I've a feeling I was quite surprised by the answer...

Proposed translations

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Rouge allura AC

Comparison of the molecular structures in the 2 refs establishes the equivalence.
The English term is as used by the FD&C.
Peer comment(s):

agree B D Finch : Lake? With the addition of the qualifier "lake", this does seem to be the preferred French term. In both standard and lake forms, it's banned in France because it's dangerous stuff, which reduces the number of ghits.
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Thanks BD!
agree Helen Genevier : + laque aluminique ? I meant to translate the "lake" part
1 day 13 hrs
Thank Helens! NB But it's not the same molecule as laque aluminique
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E120 cochenille (rouge 40)

Peer comment(s):

agree Jean-Claude Gouin
1 hr
merci!
disagree B D Finch : It isn't cochenille and its E number is E129, not E120, though the E number doesn't reveal whether or not it is a lake.
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2 days 55 mins

rouge 40 lake

www.qkconfiserie.fr/nos-bonbons/willy-wonka-nerds-4/... de carnauba, colorant rajouté, colorant camine, bleu 1&2, bleu 1&2 lake, rouge 40, rouge 40 lake, jaune 5&6, jaune 5&6 lake. Peut contenir des traces d'œufs

http://www.red40.com/pages/chemistry.html
"The proper chemical name for Red40 is:
6-hydroxy-5-[(2-methoxy-5-methyl-4-sulfophenyl)azo]-2-naphthalenesulfonic acid
which is a terribly long word for a very tiny molecule. The chemical is often referred to as an "azo" dye. "

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_coloringJump to Dyes and lakes - [edit]. Color additives are available for use in food as either "dyes" or lake pigments (commonly known as "lakes").

https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=lake pigment food col...
"A lake pigment is a pigment manufactured by precipitating a dye with an inert binder, or "mordant", usually a metallic salt. Unlike vermilion, ultramarine, and other pigments made from ground minerals, lake pigments are organic."

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allura_Red_AC
"Allura Red AC is a red azo dye that goes by several names including: Allura Red, Food Red 17, C.I. 16035, FD&C Red 40, E129,[1][2] 2-naphthalenesulfonic acid, 6-hydroxy-5-((2-methoxy-5-methyl-4-sulfophenyl)azo)-, disodium salt, and disodium 6-hydroxy-5-((2-methoxy-5-methyl-4-sulfophenyl)azo)-2-naphthalenesulfonate. It is used as a food dye and has the E number E129.

".... When prepared as a lake it is disclosed as Red 40 Lake or Red 40 Aluminum Lake"
Peer comment(s):

agree claude-andrew : Yes, alternative to my suggested answer
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Thanks claude-andrew
disagree PLR TRADUZIO (X) : Pas Français: Liste des additifs reconnus - Open Food Facts fr.wiki.openfoodfacts.org/Liste_des_additifs_recon... Traduci questa pagina 20 ott 2014 - E120 Acide carminique, carmin, carmins, Rouge cochenille, ... 40, Allura Red, Food Red 17, C.I. 16035, FD
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You seem to think you know better than French manufacturers who use the term.
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E129

Le "red 40" US est le E129, non le E120
http://www.minerva.unito.it/Chimica&Industria/Dizionario/Sup...

Les colorants sont toujours exprimés en codes "E" dans les documents FR.

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Allura Red AC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allura_Red_AC
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"E129" redirects here. For the Japanese train type, see E129 series. .... When prepared as a lake it is disclosed as Red 40 Lake or Red 40 Aluminum Lake.
lake allura red,c i no. 16035 lake,fd&c red 40 lake,c i food ...
www.standardcon.com/lakeallurared.htm
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aluminium lake allura Red colours, lake fd&c red 40, lake e129.
[PDF]LP synthetische Farbstoffe
www.overlack.de/.../LP_synthetische_Farbstoffe.pdf
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FD&C Red 40 Lake. 16035. E129. FD&C Blue 2 Lake. 73015. E132. FD&C Blue 1 Lake. 42090. E133. EC Approved Aluminium Lakes. Tartrazine Lake. 19140.
Food Dyes and Pigments - Chromatech
www.chromatechcolors.com/industries/food-dye-lake/
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FD&C Yellow #6 Lake E110, c71006. C73025 14-16% / C73030 35-42% FD&C Red #40 Lake E129, c73025. C75010 11-13% / C75025 35-42% FD&C Blue #1 ...
E129 - Rouge allura AC - Open Food Facts
fr.openfoodfacts.org/additif/e129-rouge-allura-ac
Noms : Rouge allura AC, Rouge Allura, Rouge alimentaire 17, FD&C Rouge 40, Allura Red, Food Red 17, C.I. 16035, FD&C Red 40, Red 40 lake, Red 40, ...
E129 - Allura red ac - Open Food Facts
fr-en.openfoodfacts.org/additive/e129-allura-red-ac
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Names: Rouge allura AC, Rouge Allura, Rouge alimentaire 17, FD&C Rouge 40, Allura Red, Food Red 17, C.I. 16035, FD&C Red 40, Red 40 lake, Red 40, ...
Food colours - Neelikon Food Dyes & Chemicals Ltd.
www.neelikon.com/foodcol.htm
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Neelicol Allura Red, 16035, E129 ... Neelilake Allura Red Lake, 16035:1, E129 ... Neelicert FD & C Red 40 Lake, 16035:1 ...
Lake Allura Red CI No. 16035 FD&C Red 40 lake, CI Food ...
lakecolours.en.ec21.com › Buy Now › Pigment
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16035 FD&C Red 40 lake, C.I. Food RED 17, E129 lake, India, manufacturer, supplier, exporter, Standardcon Pvt. Ltd.. Source for lake allura red colour, lake ...
[PDF]View Lucks Edible Transfer Sheets Product Specifications.
www.lucks.com/.../Transfer Sheets FG%2...
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Red #40 Lake (E129), Red #3 (E127), Yellow #6 Lake (E110). Contains Soy. 48174, 15198, 15976, 15975, 48468: Tapioca Starch, Corn Syrup Solids, ...
QK Chocolate Pens - QK kitchen Shop
www.qkshop.hk/qkcp.html - Traduire cette page
Candy Color : Partially Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil (Cottonseed, Soybean), FD&C Black Lake Blend (FD&C Blue 2 Lake(E132), FD&C Red 40 Lake(E129), ...
Peer comment(s):

disagree B D Finch : English is equally liable to use E numbers. As the source text term is not E129, the target term should also not substitute an E number for the name of the dye.
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Ceux sont les lois européennes d'étiquetage qui l'imposent.
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