Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

production job ticket

French translation:

ordre / bon de fabrication / de production

Added to glossary by Tony M
Jun 21, 2015 02:39
8 yrs ago
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English term

production job tickets

English to French Bus/Financial Manufacturing
"Generates production job tickets based on specifications in executed Working Papers and reviews draft Working Papers for accuracy, relevant to manufacturing"

Il s'agit de la description de la fonction de "Production Planning Manager" au sein d'une société spécialisée dans les jeux à gratter et loteries.

Merci d'avance pour votre aide.
Change log

Jun 21, 2015 07:00: Tony M changed "Field (specific)" from "Other" to "Manufacturing"

Jun 26, 2015 08:13: Tony M Created KOG entry

Discussion

Tony M Jun 22, 2015:
@ mchd Sadly, not quite! That was my very first idea; but the trouble is, 'bon à tirer' has a very specific meaning in printing — to indicate acceptance of proofs.

But here, I suspect this document is a much earlier and more 'umbrella' document — the bàt will probably be signed off by someone else (and in any case, almost certainly generated by the production department itself, for approval by this post or their delegate).
mchd Jun 22, 2015:
Alors Tony ... un bon à tirer
Dans le domaine de l'impression ......
Tony M Jun 22, 2015:
@ Abel Not quite exactly.

A 'ticket' means some kind of document — other words used in EN may be note, docket, slip, etc., corresponding in some contexts to 'bon' in FR (cf. 'bon de livraison' etc.)

So 'ticket' here corresponds to 'ordre' — both the notion of a 'commande' and the physical manifestation as a 'bon de commande'.

The 'lancement' but comes into the 'production' — the underlying idea is 'permission to start production'.
HERBET Abel Jun 22, 2015:
Alors "ordre de lancement en production " ce sont les "tickets" , des ordres de lancement
Daryo Jun 22, 2015:
a bit of reality check from the job title "Production Planning Manager" you would expect that this manager is concerned with "planning the production" - the production being here "printing lottery tickets and scratch cards"; you don't need to spend your whole life in a factory to see that his problem IS NOT to keep redefining job descriptions every day, but to "plan the production" - make sure that there are not some days with nothing to print, and other days where this printing shop has to do triple shifts..
Tony M Jun 21, 2015:
@ Abel Not quite literally! What it says is that part of this Production Planning Manager's job is to generate these job tickets — that's a very important difference!
HERBET Abel Jun 21, 2015:
@Tony : The text says "Il s'agit de la """""""""description de la fonction de "Production Planning Manager""""""""" au sein d'une société spécialisée dans les jeux à gratter et loteries ??????? ========Définition de poste

Proposed translations

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English term (edited): production job ticket
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ordre de fabrication

The exact content of this 'job ticket' may determine the best translation solution in FR.

Normally, it contains information about the production of some specific article, order, etc. Another term commonly used for something along the same lines is a 'works order'. Otfne the 'ticket' accompanies the 'job' as it passes through the various stages of 'production', for purposes of traceability, quality checking, etc.

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Note added at 4 heures (2015-06-21 06:48:31 GMT)
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It is important to note that this document is inteded for tracking a specific 'job' — i.e. piece of work being done; it has nothing to do with 'job' in the sense of employment. In that sense, quite apart from the context here being different, one would not find the term 'ticket' (which is to some extent used in the same way as 'bon' in FR)

In fact, 'bon de production' or 'fiche de production' might be possible solutions — though I fear that the latter could breed ambiguity, since it is rather too close to a 'gamme'; there again, if this 'job ticket' is in fact akin to a 'route sheet' (qv), it might even be possible to refer to it as a g'amme' — Asker really needs to find out a bit more about the context and exactly what this document comprises.

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Note added at 1 jour4 heures (2015-06-22 07:36:12 GMT)
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Fair enough, sometimes there are clues that can be gleaned from elsewhere in the text, but it doesn't sound as if you'll be lucky here! But I guess the source term is realtively general in the way it is being used here, so something fairly general will be suitable in EN too — unless the specific company happens to have their own jargon in EN too!
Note from asker:
Hello Tony, there isn't much more info than the one I gave I am afraid, it is as as said earlier a description of one of the roles of the production manager. As often, the deadline is tight and I must deliver soon, so I will pick your suggestion and submit a query to the client. Thank you for your help.
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disagree HERBET Abel : Il s'agit de la description de la fonction de "Production Planning Manager" au sein d'une société ???????
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No it doesn't — this is merely PART of what her/his job involves: please note carefully 'generates'
agree Daryo : I don't see what else could make sense if you take the trouble to read more than one word. In manufacturing the equivalent would be "ordre de lancement de production", here this manager decides which lottery tickets to print, how many and when ...
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Thanks, Daryo! Quite, my point exactly! Maybe 'ordre de production' would be better, given that this isn't really 'fabrication'?
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disagree Tony M : A 'job ticket' is not a 'job description'
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agree HERBET Abel : Il s'agit de la description de la fonction de "Production Planning Manager" au sein d'une société ?????
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disagree Daryo : leaving linguistic aspects aside, it doesn't make sense: a "Production Planning" manager who keeps redefinig every day job descriptions? that's the job of the HR department, no?
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disagree Tony M : A 'job ticket' is not a 'job description'
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Il s'agit de la description de la fonction de "Production Planning Manager" au sein d'une société ????
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