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Glossary entry

Danish term or phrase:

ran versus røveri

English translation:

larcency vs robbery

Added to glossary by dmesnier
Dec 18, 2018 15:13
5 yrs ago
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Danish term

ran versus røveri

Danish to English Law/Patents Insurance terms and conditions
Hi, I'm looking for a way to distinguish between these two terms, for which typical DA-EN reference lists robbery for both. Below is a sample sentence. Thanks for your help.


Forsikringen dækker desuden hærværk på forsikrede genstande, når det sker i forbindelse med ran eller røveri.
Proposed translations (English)
3 larcency vs robbery
3 -1 theft and burglary
References
ran er tyveri, der sker åbenlyst / røveri er tyveri sket ved anvendelse af vold eller trussel

Discussion

Pernille Kienle Dec 18, 2018:
.. What I'm saying is that, if I could have changed my initial suggestion of theft and burglary to theft and robbery, I would have done so (don't know if it's possible to alter a suggestion for kudoz points); instead, my only option was to add a note, which I did 2 min later. I should not have a 'disagree' next to my suggested answer - that's my only point Tine - you could have just commented instead of disagreeing when I had already explained...
Tine Wanning Dec 18, 2018:
I am sorry Pernille, but I thought your main suggestion was "Theft and burglary" ( which I don't agree with) and that you suggested that "burglary" could be substituted with "robbery". I didn't know that robbery and burglary is the same. In my terminology burglary is neither "tyveri", "ran" nor "røveri", but "indbrud" where you enter other people's premises in an illegal way for what ever reason, and "røveri" is straight forward "robbery".
dmesnier (asker) Dec 18, 2018:
Right, except this document also specified tyveri which I'm thinking is an umbrella term for "theft" but I need to further distinguish between ran and røveri. You have certainly pointed me in the right direction - I've been tossing all this around for 3 days and I'm very grateful! -:)
Pernille Kienle Dec 18, 2018:
Agreement No need to disagree when I've made the suggestions
Pernille Kienle Dec 18, 2018:
Theft and robbery I have already suggested theft and robbery
dmesnier (asker) Dec 18, 2018:
I'm thinking "ran" could be best expressed here as "larceny" per Det Danske Ordbog "ran = åbenlyst tyveri der begås uden anvendelse af vold"

Proposed translations

3 days 4 hrs
Selected

larcency vs robbery

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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Although larceny is a bit broader than "ran" (e.g., open theft - seen by other) this is the best option. Thanks!"
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3 mins

theft and burglary

How about this?

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Note added at 5 mins (2018-12-18 15:19:16 GMT)
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robbery is another option for burglary

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Note added at 9 mins (2018-12-18 15:23:09 GMT)
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https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/theft
Reference:

https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/criminal-defense/criminal-offense/differences-between-theft-burglary-robbery

Note from asker:
Great - I'll read through that. This document also specifies tyveri and indbryd.
Peer comment(s):
neutral Tine Wanning : "Theft" (or open theft) is OK for "ran", but I believe that "røveri" has to be robbery. And "indbrud" is burglary.
1 hr
No need to disagree when I've made the suggestions...
disagree Christopher Schröder : Robbery yes, burglary no
17 hrs
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Reference comments

7 hrs
Reference:

ran er tyveri, der sker åbenlyst / røveri er tyveri sket ved anvendelse af vold eller trussel

ran er tyveri, der sker åbenlyst / røveri er tyveri sket ved anvendelse af vold eller trussel

references:

Indboforsikring - Codan
https://www.codan.dk/.../Trekroner/trekroner_indbo.pdf
Desuden dækker forsikringen genstande, der midlertidigt ... afsnit 1), eller når den pågældende bærer risikoen for dem ... dækket mod tyveri og hærværk uden for forsikrings- .... 4.10 Ran og røveri. Ran er tyveri, der sker åbenlyst. Det skal ... døre) i forbindelse med indbrud, når den .... skade på forsikrede genstande i forbindelse ...

Forsikringsbetingelser for TYVERIFORSIKRING ... - Lokal Forsikring
https://lokal.dk/.../2203.04.01 - tyveri-erhverv inkl.%...
Tyveriforsikringen omfatter skade på de forsikrede genstande, når de ... For dækning udenfor forsikringsstedet gælder de samme sikringskrav som for hovedfor- ... Forsikringen omfatter desuden ikke arbejdsmaskiner, der er eller ville være omfattet af ... Røveri er tyveri sket ved anvendelse af vold eller trussel om øjeblikkelig ...

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Note added at 7 hrs (2018-12-18 23:09:29 GMT)
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Ved du, hvad din forsikring dækker, hvis du bliver bestjålet? | Samvirke
https://samvirke.dk/.../ved-du-hvad-din-forsikring-daekker-h...
24 abr. 2018 - Ran: Ran kan også omdøbes til åbenlyst tyveri. Det vil sige, at du eller en anden skal se tyveriet ske, hvis det for eksempel sker på gaden.

Oversigt over indboforsikringens dækning 1. Brand 2. Kortslutning 3 ...
gf-poppelen.dk/media/6864/billag-til-forsikringspolice.pdf
Simpelt tyveri. Tyveri fra biler, private både og fly samt beboede campingvogne og telte. 6. Ran, røveri og overfald. Ran er tyveri, der sker åbenlyst, fx tasketyveri.

Simpelt Tyveri → Alt Du Skal Vide Om Forsikring | Mikonomi
https://www.mikonomi.dk/forsikring/hvad-er/simpelt-tyveri
Ran er det åbenlyse tyveri, hvor der ikke bliver brugt eller truet med vold, og hvor ... af den bestjålne eller andre tilstedeværende i det øjeblik, tyveriet sker.

ran- og røveriforsikring | Gyldendal - Den Store Danske
denstoredanske.dk/Samfund.../ran-_og_røveriforsikring
1 feb. 2009 - ran- og røveriforsikring, forsikring, der dækker dels ran, dvs. tyveri, der sker åbenlyst, bemærkes i selve gerningsøjeblikket og begås uden ...

Røveri - Politiet
https://politi.dk/da/anmeld/vold og roeveri/roeveri
Røveri er, fx når en gerningsmand ved at bruge vold eller trusler om vold får dig til at aflevere din pung eller mobiltelefon. Røveri kan også være rettet mod fx ...

Tyveribegreber | Forsikring & Pension
admin.forsikringogpension.dk/forsikring/.../Tyveribegreber.aspx
Røveri. Indboforsikringen dækker tyveri, når der er tale om røveri. Dvs. at du med vold eller trusler om vold bliver frastjålet dine ting. Bliver du omringet af en flok ...

Fritidshusforsikring - Alka Forsikring
https://www.alka.dk/privat/.../~/.../34_4_fritidshusforsikri... -
... at der gøres anskrig øjeblikkelig efter ranet. 335.22 Ved røveri forstås tyveri ved vold eller trussel om øjeblikkelig anvendelse af vold.
Peer comments on this reference comment:
agree Christopher Schröder
9 hrs
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