Dec 26, 2018 11:10
5 yrs ago
English term
(a tie) divided at the bottom into a wild fork shape
English
Art/Literary
Textiles / Clothing / Fashion
But the tie: ah. It had just arrived from New York, the latest in bright, cheerful colors; it *divided at the bottom into a wild fork shape*.
--quoted from Martian Time-Slip (1964, science fiction) by Philip K. Dick (link: https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&q=“divided at the bott...
This style of tie really exists/existed? Or was just imagined by the author?
Thank you!
--quoted from Martian Time-Slip (1964, science fiction) by Philip K. Dick (link: https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&q=“divided at the bott...
This style of tie really exists/existed? Or was just imagined by the author?
Thank you!
Responses
| 4 | possibly... |
Yvonne Gallagher
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| 4 | Imaginary |
Omar Al-Awady
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Yvonne Gallagher
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possibly...
any design is possible though I haven't seen this one, yet!
But it is part of a sci-fi landscape and is the "latest" design (from New York) so of course it is real in the imaginary setting of the book.
After all, ties can come with flat bottom and in narrow, slim and wide shapes and can be knotted in lots of different ways, and produced in lots of different fabrics so I wouldn't be at all surprised if someone produced one like this!
Also note that "forked-tongue" could well be symbolic of something else going on.
The meaning of someone speaking with a forked tongue is that they are lying! Or the image also conjures up reptiles. Think of snakes, seen as slithery and slimy and used to descibe humans like this.
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Note added at 1 day 1 hr (2018-12-27 12:42:40 GMT)
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a few "different" ties
https://yournecktieshop.com/skinny-ties/square-end-ties
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Note added at 2 days 53 mins (2018-12-28 12:04:01 GMT) Post-grading
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Glad to have helped.
Definitely keep the forked shape in your translation then if you have the same sort of reference to snakes. I think it would be an interesting tie anyway!
[and Happy New Year!]
But it is part of a sci-fi landscape and is the "latest" design (from New York) so of course it is real in the imaginary setting of the book.
After all, ties can come with flat bottom and in narrow, slim and wide shapes and can be knotted in lots of different ways, and produced in lots of different fabrics so I wouldn't be at all surprised if someone produced one like this!
Also note that "forked-tongue" could well be symbolic of something else going on.
The meaning of someone speaking with a forked tongue is that they are lying! Or the image also conjures up reptiles. Think of snakes, seen as slithery and slimy and used to descibe humans like this.
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Note added at 1 day 1 hr (2018-12-27 12:42:40 GMT)
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a few "different" ties
https://yournecktieshop.com/skinny-ties/square-end-ties
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Note added at 2 days 53 mins (2018-12-28 12:04:01 GMT) Post-grading
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Glad to have helped.
Definitely keep the forked shape in your translation then if you have the same sort of reference to snakes. I think it would be an interesting tie anyway!
[and Happy New Year!]
Note from asker:
| Sure! Happy New Year:) |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you for your detailed answer! Just as you said, the fork shape conjures up snakes, or devil, because the man who put it on was to lure another man's wife."
27 mins
Imaginary
As far as I know as a man, this is an imaginary tie since there are no wild forks in the jungles, and that it's a science fiction text.
Note from asker:
| Thanks! But I think the sentence should be read as (wild) (fork shape). |
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Yvonne Gallagher
: what do you mean by "no wild forks in the jungles"?
1 day 55 mins
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