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Jun 15, 2019 05:57
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English term

Film-Noir

English to Hindi Art/Literary Poetry & Literature
Translation of just the word Film-Noir. It's not part of any sentence but listed as genre/category on film/entertainment website page
Proposed translations (Hindi)
4 +6 नुआर सिनेमा / डार्क सिनेमा
5 नुआ फ़िल्म / अपराध-रहस्य कथा /
4 थ्रिलर-जासूसी

Discussion

Lalit Sati Jun 16, 2019:
शुक्रिया acetran और संदीप जी
@acetran दरअसल, noir के उच्चारण के लिए forvo.com व एकाध और जगह पर अंग्रेजों को सुना तो मुझे नुआर जैसा ही सुनाई पड़ा। अंग्रेजों को इसलिए कि, शब्द किसी मूल का हो वह प्राय: आता हम तक वाया अंग्रेजी ही है। वही उच्चारण हावी रहता है।
Sandeep Gupta (asker) Jun 16, 2019:
Thanks, @acetran for your inputs and explanation. I will prefer to use डार्क सिनेमा Over नुआर सिनेमा. Thanks @Lalit Sati for the word. Thanks to all participants
acetran Jun 16, 2019:
@asker Since you have provided context now, transliteration seems to be the best option as suggested by Sri Lallit. Jai Prakash Choksey being an excellent critic and expert, I would go with his version - नॉयर (However, the quoted article is full of spelling errors, etc.)
Sandeep Gupta (asker) Jun 16, 2019:
The context is that a page titled Films as entertainment category has listed Film genres which include Film-noir as well. Some people call it a Film style but some see it as a genre-

1. Romance
2. Comedy
3. Thriller
4. Horror
5. Film-noir
acetran Jun 15, 2019:
@asker The transliteration of the term 'Noir' can be used, but no one may understand (since you say, "It's not part of any sentence but listed as genre/category on film/entertainment website page"--there is no explanation.)

I would suggest that a Hindi translation be used instead.

Proposed translations

+6
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नुआर सिनेमा / डार्क सिनेमा

फ़िल्म-नुआर शैली

समझने में आसानी के लिए डार्क सिनेमा लिखा जा सकता है

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"ऐसे फार्मूलों से भरी श्वेत-श्याम नुआर फ़िल्में (film noir) चालीस और पचास के दशक में काफी चलती थीं..."
(https://books.google.co.in/books?id=bHxHDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA114&dq...

"थियेटर में सिनेमा की नुआर शैली के..."
(https://www.prabhatkhabar.com/news/रव-र-ग/story/1193088.html...

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Note added at 45 mins (2019-06-15 06:43:37 GMT)
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कुछ लेखकों ने नुआर की जगह "नॉयर" वर्तनी का प्रयोग किया है

उदा.
"अपराध फिल्मों की गंगोत्री हॉलीवुड ही है। मनुष्य मन के अंधेरे पक्ष का नॉयर सिनेमा भी उसने ही रचा है।"
()http://gadyakosh.org/gk/महाशक्ति_के_संशय_और_भ्रम_/_जयप्रकाश_...
Peer comment(s):
agree Chandrakant Mhatre
2 hrs
शुक्रिया
agree Shera Lyn Parpia
3 hrs
शुक्रिया
agree Piyush Ojha
5 hrs
शुक्रिया
agree acetran : Jai Prakash Choksey being an excellent critic and expert, I would go with his version - नॉयर (However, the quoted article is full of spelling errors, etc.)
1 day 1 hr
शुक्रिया
agree Ashutosh Mitra : सहमत, प्रभो!
1 day 20 hrs
agree Shruti Nagar : +1 for नॉयर
3 days 8 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks Lalit Sati for Help"
5 mins

थ्रिलर-जासूसी

The term was originally applied (by a group of French critics) to American thriller or detective films made in the period 1944–54 and to the work of directors such as Orson Welles, Fritz Lang, and Billy Wilder.

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Note added at 7 mins (2019-06-15 06:05:12 GMT)
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रोमांचक-जासूसी can be used as well.
Peer comment(s):
agree Shera Lyn Parpia
3 hrs
Thanks!
neutral Piyush Ojha : Although the term was first applied to American thrillers, the primary characteristic of film noir is ' a mood of pessimism, fatalism, and menace' (https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/film_noir ).
5 hrs
The genre was prevalent mostly in American crime dramas of the post-World War II era. https://www.britannica.com/art/film-noir
disagree Shruti Nagar : Film Noir is much more than simple thriller. It is the all-prevailing aspect of darkness(say, blackness), in the storyline, characters, and overall atmosphere. It cannot be substituted with 'thriller' or 'detective'.
3 days 8 hrs
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21 hrs

नुआ फ़िल्म / अपराध-रहस्य कथा /

The French term "Noir" has its English pronunciation differ than literal French one as when this comes to English it must speak with both lips and open mouth (as we describe pronunciation in Hindi) and "r" become silent as per language rule, since we most commonly accepts English pronunciation rather than French one thus it should be नुआ.

Second, according to the definition of Noir film are those films which's story revolves and scripted around crime-drama, well it could be called Dark Cinema but it's only due to its uses in that time Black-White films but not limited to the Black color's cinematographic use.

So here are my suggestions and explanations.
Peer comment(s):
neutral Shruti Nagar : जी हाँ, सही उच्चारण 'नुआ' ही है, लेकिन 'नॉयर' हिंदी में प्रचलित और एक हद तक मान्य हो गया है. रही dark या black की बात, तो इसका सम्बन्ध फिल्म के ब्लैक-एंड व्हाइट होने से नहीं है; कृपया यह देखें: https://www.britannica.com/art/film-noir
2 days 11 hrs
आपका आभार, जो आपने प्रश्न के बंद होने के बाद भी समय निकालकर उत्तर दिया. चलिए हिंदी में मान्य है तो अच्छा है, मान्य तो “रामा और कृष्णा ” भी है, यह भी है, तो अच्छा है. बाकी शायद आपने पढ़ा नहीं, नुआ का संबंध कथा की सिनेमेटोग्राफी से है, शायद आप चूक गईं हों.
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