Glossary entry (derived from question below)
español term or phrase:
descuelgue salarial
inglés translation:
wage delinking
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patinba
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descuelgue salarial
español al inglés
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I see this term translated in proz as 'salary opt-out' which from what I see in internet is an option of the worker. From the definition of descuelgue salarial in internet it is something imposed by the company. I don't think the employees have an option...
In view of this, what can you suggest in English, other than opt-out???
many thanks
In view of this, what can you suggest in English, other than opt-out???
many thanks
Proposed translations
(inglés)
| 3 | wage delinkage |
patinba
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| 4 | wage decoupling (from GDP growth/productivity) |
Francois Boye
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| 4 | non-compliance (by companies) with collective wage agreement |
Yvonne Gallagher
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References
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Taña Dalglish
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Sep 10, 2019 20:56: patinba Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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wage delinkage
"delinkage" seems to be what "descuelge" means
Spain cuts firing costs in new labor reform - Reuters
https://www.reuters.com › article › us-spain-labour › spain-cuts-firing-cost...
Feb 10, 2012 - Spain cut severance pay for workers on Friday and watered down collective ... would allow employers to ignore wage deals negotiated across sectors in times of crisis. Such collective bargaining agreements are often linked to inflation. ... via collective bargaining or delinking salaries from consumer prices.
Financial Crisis and Wage Policy: Interview with Pierre Laliberté
https://www.ilo.org › actrav › media-center › WCMS_156235 › lang--en
May 9, 2011 - The delinking of wages from productivity gains was one of the most ... the exercise of collective bargaining but also to be proactive, notably as ...
3.2. The role of collective bargaining for employment and ...
https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org › sites › empl_outlook-2018-7-en › empl_outl...
The shares of workers in trade unions and covered by collective agreements have been ...... In the longer term, such delinking of wages from productivity could have ... deflationary shock of the crisis and the staggering of collective agreements.
Spain cuts firing costs in new labor reform - Reuters
https://www.reuters.com › article › us-spain-labour › spain-cuts-firing-cost...
Feb 10, 2012 - Spain cut severance pay for workers on Friday and watered down collective ... would allow employers to ignore wage deals negotiated across sectors in times of crisis. Such collective bargaining agreements are often linked to inflation. ... via collective bargaining or delinking salaries from consumer prices.
Financial Crisis and Wage Policy: Interview with Pierre Laliberté
https://www.ilo.org › actrav › media-center › WCMS_156235 › lang--en
May 9, 2011 - The delinking of wages from productivity gains was one of the most ... the exercise of collective bargaining but also to be proactive, notably as ...
3.2. The role of collective bargaining for employment and ...
https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org › sites › empl_outlook-2018-7-en › empl_outl...
The shares of workers in trade unions and covered by collective agreements have been ...... In the longer term, such delinking of wages from productivity could have ... deflationary shock of the crisis and the staggering of collective agreements.
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Comment: "I think delinking fits best. 'Decoupling' is more macro, 'non-compliance (by companies) with collective wage agreement' is a bit wordy for a title, 'opt-out' is the employee's option, 'delinking' I think is the best idea (rather than delinkage which sounds rather strange).Salaries are delinked from rank, from production, from profit...as there is no further context in the document I have to go with something general. Many thanks to all for the input"
1 hora
Francois Boye
Estados Unidos
Estados Unidos
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Estados Unidos
An economic geek with social skills
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wage decoupling (from GDP growth/productivity)
http://www.oecd.org/economy/decoupling-of-wages-from-product...
https://www.econlib.org/the-wage-decoupling-mess/
https://www.econlib.org/the-wage-decoupling-mess/
21 horas
Yvonne Gallagher
Irlanda
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Irlanda
right word, right place. everytime
Native in: inglés (Variants: Irish, UK, US, Canadian)
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non-compliance (by companies) with collective wage agreement
it means that in times of "crisis" (howsoever that may be defined but basically difficult financial times) the company may decide not to follow or comply with the collective wage agreement already in place
So no, it's not really up to the employees to opt out at all as this is the company choosing to do that
That's the way I read it
See here
https://www.iberley.es/temas/descuelgue-salarial-convenio-35...
El descuelgue salarial constituye una modificación sustancial de las condiciones de trabajo que permite a las empresas en situaciones de dificultades económicas buscar una salida a éstas a través de no incrementar el coste salarial, evitando de este modo el empleo de otras medidas más drásticas que afectarían a la continuidad de las relaciones laborales como los despidos individuales, los expedientes de regulación de empleo o incluso el cierre de la empresa
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I certainly don't see it having anything whatsoever to do with "GDP growth/productivity"
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BTW I think the short form "wage opt-out" may be misleading and ambiguous
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...so it needs to be highlighted that it is the company/employer doing the opting out...
So no, it's not really up to the employees to opt out at all as this is the company choosing to do that
That's the way I read it
See here
https://www.iberley.es/temas/descuelgue-salarial-convenio-35...
El descuelgue salarial constituye una modificación sustancial de las condiciones de trabajo que permite a las empresas en situaciones de dificultades económicas buscar una salida a éstas a través de no incrementar el coste salarial, evitando de este modo el empleo de otras medidas más drásticas que afectarían a la continuidad de las relaciones laborales como los despidos individuales, los expedientes de regulación de empleo o incluso el cierre de la empresa
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I certainly don't see it having anything whatsoever to do with "GDP growth/productivity"
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Note added at 21 hrs (2019-09-10 12:04:48 GMT)
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BTW I think the short form "wage opt-out" may be misleading and ambiguous
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Note added at 21 hrs (2019-09-10 12:06:05 GMT)
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...so it needs to be highlighted that it is the company/employer doing the opting out...
Reference comments
40 minutos
Taña Dalglish
Jamaica
Jamaica
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Works in field
Jamaica
Translating the Ideas Behind the Words
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Works in: español al inglés, inglés al español, francés al inglés, and 2 more.
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I am not disagreeing with Helena, but perhaps a more precise term is "wage opt-out" (?) (a part of the collective bargaining process).
wage opt out (descuelge salarial) (part of collective bargaining)
http://www.kluwerlawonline.com/abstract.php?id=268166
The Spanish system of collective bargaining has been the object of important changes following the introduction of Law n. 1 of 19 May 1994; changes which have contributed to the most extensive modernisation process of the legal framework in the area of labour relations in Spain. This article is aimed at examining a specific and relevant aspect of this reform — the so-called ***wage opt-out clause (cláusula de descuelgue salarial)***. Indeed, in a context of wide decentralisation of collective bargaining, the new legislation makes it possible to avoid applying the wage system laid down at national level for those companies whose economic stability may be damaged by such a general system. The article focuses on the juridical nature and legal consequences of the application of the wage opt-out clause.
The Wage Opt-Out Clause in Spain
https://heinonline.org › hol-cgi-bin › get_pdf › cllir0016
by CA Garcia - 2000 - Cited by 2 - Related articles
This article is aimed at examining a specific and relevant aspect of this reform - the so-called **wage opt- out clause (cldusula de descuelgue salarial)***. Indeed, in a ...
DESCUELGUE SALARIAL Y ULTRAACTIVIDAD DE ... - ebsco
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by ANA NAVASCUÉS SARRATEA - 2014
Title: DESCUELGUE SALARIAL Y ULTRAACTIVIDAD DE CONVENIOS COLECTIVOS. (Spanish); Alternate Title: ***Salary opt-out*** and the extended validity of the ...
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https://www.fieldfisherjausas.com/en/reduccion-de-la-retribu...
De entre las rigideces del contrato de trabajo más apuntadas en España destaca la retribución salarial tanto por el marco legal como por la sociología del mercado de trabajo que hasta la fecha siempre ha defendido la consolidación de las condiciones retributivas alcanzadas por el empleado como terreno cuasi inexpugnable. Pues bien, el nuevo marco legal vigente en España desde el pasado mes de Febrero persigue flexibilizar la rigidez salarial desde dos ángulos. ***Por un lado ampliando las opciones del denominado "descuelgue salarial" respecto de los niveles mínimos de retribución que exige el convenio colectivo***, que es en esencia una medida temporal para situaciones de graves dificultades que afectan al conjunto de la empresa, mecanismo ya existente en el Estatuto de los Trabajadores (E.T.) antes de la reciente reforma laboral y que en la nueva redacción del art. 82 nº 3 del E.T. encuentra mayores posibilidades de aplicación.
wage opt out (descuelge salarial) (part of collective bargaining)
http://www.kluwerlawonline.com/abstract.php?id=268166
The Spanish system of collective bargaining has been the object of important changes following the introduction of Law n. 1 of 19 May 1994; changes which have contributed to the most extensive modernisation process of the legal framework in the area of labour relations in Spain. This article is aimed at examining a specific and relevant aspect of this reform — the so-called ***wage opt-out clause (cláusula de descuelgue salarial)***. Indeed, in a context of wide decentralisation of collective bargaining, the new legislation makes it possible to avoid applying the wage system laid down at national level for those companies whose economic stability may be damaged by such a general system. The article focuses on the juridical nature and legal consequences of the application of the wage opt-out clause.
The Wage Opt-Out Clause in Spain
https://heinonline.org › hol-cgi-bin › get_pdf › cllir0016
by CA Garcia - 2000 - Cited by 2 - Related articles
This article is aimed at examining a specific and relevant aspect of this reform - the so-called **wage opt- out clause (cldusula de descuelgue salarial)***. Indeed, in a ...
DESCUELGUE SALARIAL Y ULTRAACTIVIDAD DE ... - ebsco
search.ebscohost.com › login - Translate this page
by ANA NAVASCUÉS SARRATEA - 2014
Title: DESCUELGUE SALARIAL Y ULTRAACTIVIDAD DE CONVENIOS COLECTIVOS. (Spanish); Alternate Title: ***Salary opt-out*** and the extended validity of the ...
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Note added at 11 hrs (2019-09-10 01:15:39 GMT)
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https://www.fieldfisherjausas.com/en/reduccion-de-la-retribu...
De entre las rigideces del contrato de trabajo más apuntadas en España destaca la retribución salarial tanto por el marco legal como por la sociología del mercado de trabajo que hasta la fecha siempre ha defendido la consolidación de las condiciones retributivas alcanzadas por el empleado como terreno cuasi inexpugnable. Pues bien, el nuevo marco legal vigente en España desde el pasado mes de Febrero persigue flexibilizar la rigidez salarial desde dos ángulos. ***Por un lado ampliando las opciones del denominado "descuelgue salarial" respecto de los niveles mínimos de retribución que exige el convenio colectivo***, que es en esencia una medida temporal para situaciones de graves dificultades que afectan al conjunto de la empresa, mecanismo ya existente en el Estatuto de los Trabajadores (E.T.) antes de la reciente reforma laboral y que en la nueva redacción del art. 82 nº 3 del E.T. encuentra mayores posibilidades de aplicación.
Peer comments on this reference comment:
| agree |
Luis M. Sosa
8 horas
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Thank you Luis.
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Francois Boye
: unions do not chose; instead, they have to align with the new rules imposed by corporations
10 horas
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Who said anything about unions? Only you did! There is insufficient context to determine what it means in this case & it is certainly not "wage decoupling" as you suggest!
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Discussion
Uno de los principales temas objeto de la atención de los estudiosos del Derecho en nuestros días es el de la flexibilidad salarial. La presente obra se centra precisamente en esa problemática y analiza una particular contribución a la flexibilidad reconocida por el legislador español con la Ley 111/1994, de 19 de mayo: <la cláusula de descuelgue salarial>.
GLOSSARY ENTRY (DERIVED FROM QUESTION BELOW)
Spanish term or phrase: descuelgue salarial
English translation: salary opt out (clause)
IN the Spanish case, unions had to accept changes in labour relations because the Spanish economy had to adjust to EU programs under the Rajoy Administration.
Se estará a lo establecido en el artículo 82.3 y 41.4 del Texto refundido del estatuto de los Trabajadores, aprobado por el RD Legislativo 2/2015 de 23 de octubre.
In a collective bargaining agreement Convenio Colectivo del Sector de Comercio Vario.
No other reference, sorry