Apr 28, 2004 16:41
20 yrs ago
Russian term

Eto uzhe vse, kak govorit'sia, otseiano, do togo kak chelovek vyshel v obshchii.

Non-PRO Russian to English Social Sciences Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc.
Eto uzhe vse, kak govorit'sia, otseiano, do togo kak chelovek vyshel v obshchii tam otriad, nachal kolot'sia.

A drug user is talking about how when people are sent to prison they are given lots of medical tests. He says:
u nego berutsia vse analizy i srazu on otseivaetsia. Tam vse razdeleno po sektoram. Za eti tam clediat. Kakie-to drugie zabolevaniia mozhet byt'. No VICH, gepatit net. Eto uzhe vse, kak govorit'sia, otseiano, do togo kak chelovek vyshel v obshchii tam otriad, nachal kolot'sia.

I think is talking about HIV positive prisoners being kept separately from prisoners who do not have HIV. But I don't understand 'do togo kak chelovek vyshel v obshchii tam otriad, nachal kolot'sia.'

Any ideas much appreciated!

Discussion

Ann Nosova Apr 30, 2004:
It doesn't really make sense for me. Are you sure in the original text? 1/There is a BIG and painful problem in Russia(& Ukraine)now-HIV and prisoners, I don't believe it is solved;2/how they can have syringes and all stuff inside?(few - yes,but all?)

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He is talking about two grades of separation

He is talking about two grades of separation I think. HIV and hepatite are separated before the prison - Eto uzhe vse, kak govorit'sia, otseiano - before the prisoner has joined to the group -vyshel v obshchii tam otriad -, where he can get drugs.
следственный изолятор - isolated cell before the prison
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2 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "I think this is what he is talking about. Thanks."
9 days

this is it........

This is it, as we are saying,.....
(? otseiano= otseivat=sift,select,choose)
do togo = to such an extent,
nachal kolotsya kokoinom www.narkotiki.ru (koloќ = to inject)

I would say: This is it, as we are saying, what a choice, to such an extent, when human joine a unit (detachment,team, squadrom... he is injecting himself ( become addicted ).

do togo - I am not sure how this fit in whole meaning of expression.
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