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English term

zee game

English to Spanish Social Sciences Education / Pedagogy Early childhood development
SPAIN. Same context as the previous query, a manual on early childhood development. This is some other kind of game that none of us have ever heard of either. It appears twice throughout the manual.

1. "Observation / examination

Social Smile Responds with a smile or vocalization
Social response Responds with expression and interacting sounds
Social Expectation Curiously anticipating action in a "crawl bug" or "zee" game
Target Tracking / Pointing** Says "see (object name)" and points to a medium distance object"

2. "Necessary requisites for examination:
knockers/bells, set of keys, jigsaws, phone, prams/push trains, baby doll/bear, small cup and spoon, wind-up music box, scarf (for playing 'zee'), wooden blocks, balloons."

Discussion

neilmac (asker) Nov 20, 2023:
@OGV Thanks for posting your reference, which was very helpful. That was a rather difficult translation, originally written in a Slavic language.
O G V Dec 19, 2022:
¿Veo, veo para bebés o cucú tras? Habría que tener clara la función que cumple la bufanda o el pañuelo. Si la prenda se utiliza para cubrir la vista sería el cucú tras (o algo parecido) que ya indicaba Bea (y yo no creo que sea ético proponer una respuesta ya sugerida, aunque cosas así se han visto y, más que probable, se verán).
Se antoja extraño que sirva para tapar el objeto y tampoco acabo de comprender para qué se le va a cubrir la vista al bebé (o, tampoco se ve un motivo claro, a quien dirija el juego) cuando tiene que conocer/aprender/adivinar/recordar el nombre del objeto y señalarlo.
¿Una adaptación sui generis o se nos escapa algún detalle?
O G V Dec 19, 2022:
¿Veo, veo para bebés? Puede ser... Como digo en la referencia, que resumo aquí para que le llegue al personal interesado, lo primero es saber exactamente o más o menos cómo se juega y luego decidir/descubrir/adivinar a qué juego se parece o cómo se puede denominar si se lo han inventado o es una mezcla o recreación.
Primero dicen:
"Target Tracking / Pointing** Says "see (object name)" and points to a medium distance object".
Si está a media distancia y hay que señalarlo, sugiere el veo, veo o algo similar en el que se dice que se ve un objeto (en el veo, veo sería quien pregunta o quien lleva la voz en ese momento, sin decir su nombre, sólo dando una pista).
Pero aquí parece ser el propio bebé quien debe decir el nombre y señalarlo. Entonces, sería una adaptación del veo, veo en la que hay que aprender/conocer/recordar el nombre del objeto. Veo, veo para bebés se me ocurre ahora.
Beatriz Ramírez de Haro Dec 17, 2022:
Son juegos diferentes El veo veo no es un juego para bebés porque exige saber hablar y conocer el alfabeto (en Argentina los colores), como explica Wikipedia:
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veo_veo

Además no se necesita utilizar ningún pañuelo.
El "scarf (for playing 'zee')" del original sugiere más bien un juego de ocultamiento, como dije antes.
nahuelhuapi Dec 17, 2022:
Es el famoso veo-veo
Tomasso Dec 16, 2022:
Agree, the SEE game, Виждам, виждам https://pedagogika.bg/igri-za-deca-koito-razvivat-uma-balans... THis is Machine Translation .Un juego adecuado, por ejemplo, es "Veo, veo": eliges un objeto que sea claramente visible en la habitación donde estás y dices "Veo, veo algo con la letra P". El objetivo del niño es adivinar.(Подходяща игра например е „Виждам, виждам“ – избирате си един предмет, който се вижда ясно в стаята, където сте, и казвате „Виждам, виждам нещо с буквата П“. )
neilmac (asker) Dec 15, 2022:
The original text ... Seems to have been written in English by several non-native authors from different countries, who obviously didn't bother to run a spellchecker, as the manuscript is plagued with spelling errors as well as other kinds. So, since the 's' and 'z' keys are adjacent on most keyboards, it is most likely a typo for "see". Although we have never heard of a game called "see", it is probably the peekaboo or I-Spy type game you guys mentioned. We really appreciate your input on this.
O G V Dec 15, 2022:
¿y si fuera una venda... y el "see game" fuera una adaptación que mezclara el veo, veo (I spy...) con la gallinita ciega (blind man's buff)?
estas cosas, mejor se preguntan al cliente (si hay cómo)
sigo ahora con una referencia muy curiosa y emotiva
Beatriz Ramírez de Haro Dec 14, 2022:
My two cents El hecho de necesitar un pañuelo hace pensar que se trata de un juego de ocultamiento.
Un clásico de la primera infancia es el popularísimo "cucú tras"

https://www.enfamil.es/blogs/desarrollo-de-mi-bebe/beneficio...

https://www.bebesymas.com/desarrollo/juegos-para-el-bebe-que...

Esto encajaría además con la idea de "Social Expectation Curiously anticipating action" incluida en el punto primero.

Reference comments

4 hrs
Reference:

"scarf" "playing" "see"' game

https://www.parenthub.com.au/education/educational-games/ten...

una preciosidad de página llena de juegos muy graciosos

1. Following the movement of a scarf (eye tracking)
Suitable for babies
Babies are usually able to follow moving objects with their eyes and reach for things at around three months of age. Lay your baby on their back, so that they can look up at the scarf. Dangle one end of the scarf near their face. Move it the left and then to the right or up and down. Watch your baby’s eyes as you move the scarf. They should be following it. If your baby’s eyes are not moving, it may be that the scarf is moving too quickly for them to follow it. For younger babies you will need to move the scarf more slowly, so that their eyes have time to focus on it and follow its movement.

2. Scarf peek-a-boo [coincide con el cucú tras que propone Beatriz]
toddler-scarf-5Suitable for babies and toddlers
Peek-a-boo is a classic game that kids still love to play. Take a scarf and hold it in front of your face so that your baby can’t see you. Then remove the scarf from your face and sing, ‘Peek-a-boo’. Place the scarf back over your face. You could say things like, ‘Where are you, I can’t see you?’ while your face is covered. As you reveal your face, make an expression to show your child you’re surprised. Once you have done peek-a-boo a few times, hand your baby the scarf and let them have a turn. Younger babies may just enjoy playing with the scarf. Older babies will probably try to copy you, by holding the scarf over their face and then removing it.

8. Scarf hide and seek
Suitable for babies and toddlers.
Scarf hide and seek is a fun game to help your child develop their motor skills and sense of curiosity. You can play the game either by hiding an object under a scarf or by hiding the scarf itself.

Hiding an object under a scarf
Hide an object under a scarf. At first try to make it easy for them by ensuring the lump of the object is visible. As they get used to playing, drape the scarf over the object so it is harder to see the shape of the object, to make it more challenging.

Then try placing several scarves on the ground. Tell your child that there is something hiding under one of the scarves and they need to try and find it. Ask them to point to the scarf they think the object is hidden underneath. Then ask them to lift up the scarf and see if there is anything hiding there. Then ask your child to hide an object you can find.

Hiding the scarf
Take a scarf your child loves and hide it somewhere they can find it safely and fairly easily. For example you could place it under your leg or behind the corner of the sofa. Tell your child their favourite scarf is hiding somewhere in the room and ask them to try and find it. Give them clues if they get stuck. When they have found the scarf, ask them to hide it somewhere so that you can find it.

This activity will help babies, toddlers and pre-schoolers:

Fine motor skills, including grasp
Scientific skills, including reasoning and problem solving
Gross motor skills including balance and range of movement
Language and communication skills
Safety tips

Make sure you hide the scarf in a place where your child will not encounter any danger trying to find it. For example, make sure there are no sharp corners they could bump themselves on, and no objects that might fall as they pull the scarf from its hiding place.

12. Blindfold scarf games [una recreación de la gallinita ciega]
Suitable for toddlers and pre-schoolers
Children experience sensations like touch and taste differently when their sense of sight is blocked by a blindfold. There are plenty of fun and easy games you can play using a scarf as a blindfold, that help them experience and develop their senses. Preparing is easy- simply find a scarf that can be tied around your child’s eyes to block their vision. You will also need to prepare objects for your child to play with while blindfolded. For example you could have some of their favourite toys or various shaped blocks, and ask your child to feel and guess which ones they are touching while blindfolded. You could have a variety of healthy foods, cut into small pieces so that your child can taste and guess different foods. You could also play a game like pin the tail on the donkey, if you have a blindfold and a group of children.

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Note added at 4 days (2022-12-19 14:08:15 GMT)
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Gracias. La referencia ofrece muchas actividades con "scarf". Lo que más importa es saber exactamente o más o menos cómo se juega y luego decidir/descubrir/adivinar a qué juego se parece o cómo se puede denominar si se lo han inventado o es una mezcla o recreación.
Primero dicen:
"Target Tracking / Pointing** Says "see (object name)" and points to a medium distance object".
Si está a media distancia y hay que señalarlo, sugiere el veo, veo o algo similar en el que se dice que se ve un objeto (en el veo, veo sería quien pregunta o quien lleva la voz en ese momento, sin decir su nombre, sólo dando una pista).
Pero aquí parece ser el propio bebé quien debe decir el nombre y señalarlo. Entonces, sería una adaptación del veo, veo en la que hay que aprender/conocer/recordar el nombre del objeto. Veo, veo para bebés se me ocurre ahora.
Y entonces qué función cumple la bufanda o el pañuelo. Si la prenda se utiliza para cubrir la vista (o, más improbable, el objeto) sería el cucú tras (o algo parecido) que indicaba Bea de primeras (y yo no creo que sea ético proponer una respuesta ya sugerida, aunque cosas así se han visto y, más que probable, se verán).
Note from asker:
Thanks OGV, that's really helpful. (The original text appears to be written by several authors from different countries and there are lots of mistakes in the English).
If you post this as a solution, I'll probably give you the kudoz you points.
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree Tomasso : Hide under the scarf, you can see, child guesses, also tests memory? which object is missing from the others? very young children 6 months
1 day 40 mins
agree Beatriz Ramírez de Haro : Excelente referencia
2 days 19 hrs
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