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Jun 13, 2023 13:49
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Dutch term

steenachtig

Dutch to English Tech/Engineering Construction / Civil Engineering
Used in buildng specification
Proposed translations (English)
4 +2 stone effect
4 +2 stony
4 +1 stone-based structural materials
4 Stone look
2 +1 bricky
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Discussion

Barend van Zadelhoff May 1:
stony I don't think you can be more precise than 'stony' in your context, however much you perhaps may want to.

beton, baksteen, dakpannen, enz. This may be an interesting link for you:

Recyclability and reusability of key waste streams

Stony fraction
The stony fraction of C&DW exists mainly of concrete, masonry (e.g. fired clay bricks), tiles and natural stones. Asphalt is also a stony material. In this chapter, tar-containing asphalt (an hazardous substance) will be excluded. Tar-containing asphalt can be easily detected by a PAH marker spray.
Stony materials are used in several construction applications: e.g. foundations, bearing structures, partitioning walls, roof tiles, flooring.

https://cris.vtt.fi/ws/portalfiles/portal/27438665/EIT_RM_PA...
Michael Beijer Apr 30:
just created a new article on my terminology wiki I just created a new article on my wiki @ https://beijerterm.com/niet-steenachtige_bouwmaterialen that's relevant

I am currently translating a doc is about "recyclagetrajecten van niet-steenachtige bouwmaterialen/afvalstromen"
Clive Gray Jun 21, 2023:
Steenachtig - Source Hi, I think I'll try and email bimloket.nl as suggested to see if they have an English translation for 'steenachtig'. The literal translation doesn't really reflect the mix of subsidiary materials listed below it.
Michael Beijer Jun 17, 2023:
@Clive: If this were my job, I think I'd email bimloket.nl and see if they have standard English translations for these terms!
Barend van Zadelhoff Jun 17, 2023:
Yes, this is what the question must pertain to and this is the direction/context you could further explore.
Michael Beijer Jun 17, 2023:
yes, as far as I can see I would agree with that it is really about the types / nature of the materials, not about an 'effect' or 'look'

it's also not just about tiles

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Have a look at this:

https://helpcenter.bimcollab.com/portal/en/kb/articles/smart...

"The NAA.K.T. material naming is a Dutch coding system to have unambiguous values in a BIM project, and to facilitate collaboration.

We developed a Smart view set with which you can easily check the material names of an IFC model. Open an IFC model in BIMcollab ZOOM, import the Smart view set, and see immediately if the material names are correct according to the NAA.K.T. coding.

… "

I am currently trying to find if there is a corresponding Excel file in English (published by bimloket.nl)!
Barend van Zadelhoff Jun 17, 2023:
What I can say, I think, it is really about the types / nature of material, not about 'effect' or 'look', don't you agree?
Michael Beijer Jun 17, 2023:
wow, interesting file Barend I can't say that it's helping much. I have a feeling these categories are somewhat arbitrary/geforceerd.

I am currently leaning towards Marijke's "stone-based [structural] materials". If I were to have to translate the heading in Barend's Excel file, I'd probably opt for "stone-based".
Barend van Zadelhoff Jun 17, 2023:
Er wordt dus in ieder geval onderscheid gemaakt tussen:
- beton (13 soorten)
- natuursteen (ntb, generiek, asbest, basalt, gneiss, graniet, gravel, hardsteen, kristallijn-gesteente, kwartsiet, lei, marmer, poreus-gesteente, puimsteen, sedimentgesteente, trachiet, zandsteen)
- steenachtig
Barend van Zadelhoff Jun 17, 2023:
Ik had trouwens een Excel gevonden waarin je die opsomming tegenkomt + categoriën van materialen:

beton
bitumen
cement
gips
glas
grondstof
hout
isolatie
kunststof
metaal
natuursteen
ntb
organisch
rubber
samengesteld
steenachtig

Bij elke categorie vind je welke materialen er in die categorie zitten.
De materialen onder 'steenachtig' zijn al genoemd.
Onder rubber, bijvoorbeeld, vind je: ntb, generiek, butyl, epdm, hard-rubber, linoleum, natuurrubber, neopreen, polysulfide, schuimrubber, tpve


https://www.bimloket.nl/documents/EenduidigeMateriaalbenamin...
Michael Beijer Jun 14, 2023:
@Clive: Just checking, is Brian right to assume that all the materials in your list are used in making "tiles that resemble stone"? I can't see where you said that.
Michael Beijer Jun 13, 2023:
stony I think "stony building materials", or "stony materials" works fine here.
Willemina Hagenauw Jun 13, 2023:
Stonelike... seems appropriate here...
Brian Quigley Jun 13, 2023:
The list of materials are all used in making TILES that resemble stone, e.g. porcelain stone tiles, sandstone tiles, etc.
philgoddard Jun 13, 2023:
Stonelike.
Clive Gray Jun 13, 2023:
steenachtig - more context Thank you for all your contributions. To give more context, the word is being used to collectively describe the following building materials:
* baksteen
* calciumsilicaat
* geexpandeerde-klei
* kalksteen
* kalkzandsteen
* keramisch
* kunststeen
* porisosteen
* porselein
Textpertise Jun 13, 2023:
In agreement with Michael I agree with everything Michael has said, including the request for further context. Literally the term means like stone or resembling stone. The implication is that if it is like stone or if it resembles stone, it isn't actually stone. I don't think you would have the 'achtig' ending if it were actually stone. In order to try and come up with a term in English that conveys this meaning, a bit more context would be very helpful.
Michael Beijer Jun 13, 2023:
Hi Clive What's the exact context of your term? That might help tailor the translation better.

Proposed translations

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stone effect

In an attempt to hedge all my bets (see the discussion) and on the off chance it is more accurate than the other answers, given the context we do not yet have.
Peer comment(s):
agree Brian Quigley : when referring to TILES.
3 hrs
Thank you but this term does not apply exclusively to tiles. It can be said of all sorts of finishes, e.g. glazing for pillars, painting for table tops, etc. Not everything is on Google.
agree Marijke Singer
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bricky

I'm offering this definition because it's in the Groot Polytechnisch Woordenboek.
I've translated some documents about making bricks and "steenachtig/bricky" has been used occasionally for "brick-like" as an adjective. But this is the exception. Usually, the term has meant that the brick was "stone-like" (stony).
Peer comment(s):
agree Barend van Zadelhoff : perhaps
1 day 5 hrs
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15 hrs

Stone look

I propose this translation but the term describes the 'outside' of the product, rather than the material itself. Example sentence: although the walls are made of wood, they have a stone look. I'd consider this translation in case the readers of your text are people that for example work in a sales environment.
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+1
18 hrs

stone-based structural materials

If a title or referring to the type of material.
Peer comment(s):
agree Michael Beijer : I also quite like this option
13 hrs
Thanks, Michael!
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+2
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stony

See e.g.: https://iate.europa.eu/search/result/1685450551807/1

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Comprehensive Dictionary of Industry and Technology / Groot Woordenboek Industrie en Techniek (GWIT):

• steenachtig = bricky
• steenachtige grond = rocky ground

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Van Dale online:

steenachtig (bijvoeglijk naamwoord)

1. op steen lijkend:

• stony, rocky
• (fruit) gritty

2. vol stenen:

• stony

voorbeelden:
steenachtige grond =
stony soil/ground
(scheepvaart) stony/rocky bottom

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so, without further context, my actual answer is:

steenachtig =
stony; rocky; bricky
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lots of useful stuff here as well:

https://www.linguee.com/english-dutch/search?source=auto&que...

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I am currently leaning towards Marijke's "stone-based [structural] materials". If I were to have to translate the heading in Barend's Excel file, I'd probably opt for "stone-based" or "stone-based materials".

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Note added at 322 days (2024-04-30 21:45:49 GMT) Post-grading
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see also: https://beijerterm.com/niet-steenachtige_bouwmaterialen

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“In 2015 produceerde Vlaanderen ongeveer 15 miljoen ton of 8,3 m³ bouw- en sloopafval. Op gewichtsbasis is meer dan 90% van dit afval steenachtig materiaal (beton, baksteen, dakpannen, enz.) en maximaal 10% is niet-steenachtig materiaal (isolatie, gipskarton, hout, enz.). Vandaag wordt al 95% van deze steenachtige fractie gerecycleerd, voornamelijk in (onder)funderingen van wegen en gebouwen. Tegelijkertijd geven onderzoek en real-life experimenten op sloopwerven aan dat er belangrijke hindernissen zijn om het potentieel van Urban Mining om meerwaarde te creëren volledig te benutten. We geven hiernaast een overzicht.” @ https://vlaanderen-circulair.be/src/Frontend/Files/userfiles...
Peer comment(s):
agree Brian Quigley : ODE: made of or resembling stone
1 hr
Thanks!
agree Barend van Zadelhoff : Perhaps 'bricky' is more correct, since they are referring to materials that are all 'cooked up' :-), rather than found in the natural environment.
1 day 6 hrs
Thanks Barend!
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