Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
A casetón perdido
English translation:
lost formwork
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Ellie Weekes
Sep 20, 2023 16:25
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Spanish term
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A casetón perdido
Spanish to English
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I'm struggling with "how to translate a casetón perdido" to English, as part of the phrase "forjados reticulares a casetón perdido". "Forjados reticulares" appears to be "waffle slabs" but the rest is confusing me.
This is for a project about a residential complex, and the full sentence is as follows:
La estructura horizontal y de cubierta se resuelve mediante vigas planas, para facilitar su ejecución y evitar resaltos en los techos de las viviendas, y forjados reticulares a casetón perdido con bovedillas aligerantes de hormigón.
Thanks in advance
This is for a project about a residential complex, and the full sentence is as follows:
La estructura horizontal y de cubierta se resuelve mediante vigas planas, para facilitar su ejecución y evitar resaltos en los techos de las viviendas, y forjados reticulares a casetón perdido con bovedillas aligerantes de hormigón.
Thanks in advance
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lost formwork
"Casetón" / "encofrado" = "formwork"
https://www.schoeck.com/en/slab
Reinforcement and lost formwork in concrete slabs. Building slabs are constructed in various ways. The special properties of steel-reinforced concrete slabs ...
https://www.hcjoints.be/en/products/Side-products/6/Bec-join...
Bec joint (lost formwork). These are 2 mm thick steel end-profiles that can not be recovered again. Therefore this profile is also known as permanent (lost) ...
https://etex.azureedge.net/pd17375/original/-975019429/tunne...
The PROMATECT®-H lost formwork system provides a flush finish ceiling.
https://www.bt-innovation.de/en/fields-of-application/concre...
Lost formwork is used, for example, as ring beam formwork, slab edge ... In the case of lost formwork with expanded polystyrene, additional thermal insulation is ...
http://gulfwall.com/lost-formworkceiling/
GulfWall provides an simple, effective solution for lost formwork or ceilings...
https://www.schoeck.com/en/slab
Reinforcement and lost formwork in concrete slabs. Building slabs are constructed in various ways. The special properties of steel-reinforced concrete slabs ...
https://www.hcjoints.be/en/products/Side-products/6/Bec-join...
Bec joint (lost formwork). These are 2 mm thick steel end-profiles that can not be recovered again. Therefore this profile is also known as permanent (lost) ...
https://etex.azureedge.net/pd17375/original/-975019429/tunne...
The PROMATECT®-H lost formwork system provides a flush finish ceiling.
https://www.bt-innovation.de/en/fields-of-application/concre...
Lost formwork is used, for example, as ring beam formwork, slab edge ... In the case of lost formwork with expanded polystyrene, additional thermal insulation is ...
http://gulfwall.com/lost-formworkceiling/
GulfWall provides an simple, effective solution for lost formwork or ceilings...
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Adrian MM.
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with temporary structures formwork
waffle slabs / diagrid floors -> rib-and-block suspended floors with temporary structures formwork
As a Swedish engineer once commented to me in a boarding house on a Porto Pi hillside outise Palma de Majorca: 'I'm surprised more Spanish hotels don't collapse as most of them are built without any foundations.'
As a Swedish engineer once commented to me in a boarding house on a Porto Pi hillside outise Palma de Majorca: 'I'm surprised more Spanish hotels don't collapse as most of them are built without any foundations.'
Example sentence:
El sistema utilizado fue el encofrado recuperable de casetón perdido Alucubetas alsina.es An Alucubetas temporary formwork system with permanent coffers was used
Caissons are permanent structures found in the initial design construction, whereas cofferdams are temporary structures > Pile foundation construction method using temporary cofferdam caisson of improved for weakness ground
Peer comment(s):
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Andrew Bramhall
: Don't see how these structures are only temporary;
1 hr
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| neutral |
Elizabeth Joy Pitt de Morales
: The formwork (encofrado) was temporary (recuperable); the coffer (casetón) was permanent (perdido/no recuperado).
1 hr
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Cristina Gonzalez
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[using] lost waffle pods
This refers to the formwork used to build the waffle slab. The most commonly used waffle pods are reusable, but you can find some in the market that are left in the concrete.
https://www.yourhome.gov.au/materials/concrete-slab-floors
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Note added at 1 hr (2023-09-20 17:28:17 GMT)
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You can see some more pictures of waffle pods here:
https://theconstructor.org/structural-engg/waffle-slab-ribbe...
https://www.yourhome.gov.au/materials/concrete-slab-floors
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Note added at 1 hr (2023-09-20 17:28:17 GMT)
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You can see some more pictures of waffle pods here:
https://theconstructor.org/structural-engg/waffle-slab-ribbe...
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Andrew Bramhall
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with hidden formwork
The horizontal and roof structure is made up of flat beams, to make its erection easier and avoid projections in the roofs of the dwellings, and waffle slabs with lost formwork with lightweight concrete vaults.
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Elizabeth Joy Pitt de Morales
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(with/using) a permanent coffer
Found in the ES and EN Alsina catalogues:
ES: "Sistema de encofrado recuperable para realizar forjados reticulares con casetón perdido, forjados unidireccionales y losas macizas."
https://www.alsina.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/catalogo-a...
EN: "Re-usable formwork system for making waffle slabs with permanent coffer, one-way concrete beams and solid slabs."
file:///C:/Users/thetr/Downloads/alsina-catalogue-alumecano-english.pdf
ES: "Sistema de encofrado recuperable para realizar forjados reticulares con casetón perdido, forjados unidireccionales y losas macizas."
https://www.alsina.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/catalogo-a...
EN: "Re-usable formwork system for making waffle slabs with permanent coffer, one-way concrete beams and solid slabs."
file:///C:/Users/thetr/Downloads/alsina-catalogue-alumecano-english.pdf
Peer comment(s):
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Andrew Bramhall
: 'perdido' no es 'permanente', 'casetón' no es 'coffer' en este contexto;
1 hr
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The company Alsina, which specializes in this field, seems pretty clear, and I think the context is correct. Thank you for your thoughts.
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