medical examiner vs cerifying physician

Polish translation: lekarz medycyny sądowej vs lekarz poświadczający

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English term or phrase:medical examiner vs certifying physician
Polish translation:lekarz medycyny sądowej vs lekarz poświadczający
Entered by: mike23

12:22 Jul 15, 2019
English to Polish translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Medical (general) / AKT ZGONU
English term or phrase: medical examiner vs cerifying physician
W akcie zgonu (Floryda):

CERTIFIER INFORMATION:
type of certifier: certifying physician
medical examiner case no.: not applicable
certifier's license number: xxx


Do tej pory myślałam, że oba te terminy oznaczają "lekarza orzecznika" (stwierdzającego przyczynę zgonu), ale w tabelce zastosowali dwa różne określenia. Czy to możliwe, że użyli ich po prostu jako synonimy? Czy chodzi o dwóch różnych lekarzy?
dariaemma
Poland
Local time: 20:22
lekarz medycyny sądowej vs lekarz poświadczający
Explanation:
medical examiner vs cerifying physician
lekarz medycyny sądowej vs lekarz poświadczający (przyczynę zgonu)

certifier - osoba poświadczająca
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Medical examiner: A physician, acting in an official capacity within a particular jurisdiction, charged with the investigation and examination of persons dying suddenly, unexpectedly, or violently, or whose death resulted from, or presents, a potential public health hazard. The medical examiner is not always required to be a specialist in death investigation or pathology. Most systems employing physicians as part time medical examiners encourage them to obtain training for medical examiners such as that offered by the National Association of Medical Examiners.

Coroner: A coroner is a public official, appointed or elected, in a particular geographic jurisdiction,whose official duty is to make inquiry into deaths in certain categories. In some jurisdictions, the coroner is a physician, but in many localities, the coroner is not required to be a physician nor be trained in medicine.

Pronouncing physician: The one who determines the decedent is legally dead. Not all states requirea death to be pronounced by a physician.

Certifying physician: The one who certifies the cause of death.

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the pronouncing and certifying physicians may be different, in which case the pronouncing physician completes items 24 through 31 and the certifying physician items 32 through 49. If the pronouncing physician is also the certifying physician, items 26 through 28 need not be completed. If the death is referred to the coroner or medical examiner, they complete items 24, 25,29, 30, and 32 through 49.
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mike23
Poland
Local time: 20:22
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Summary of answers provided
3 +2lekarz medycyny sądowej vs lekarz poświadczający
mike23
3patomorfolog v lekarz orzecznik
Robert Foltyn
3orzecznik
Stanislaw Semczuk
Summary of reference entries provided
medical examiner
Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.

Discussion entries: 2





  

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6 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
patomorfolog v lekarz orzecznik


Explanation:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_examiner

Robert Foltyn
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Local time: 20:22
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20 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
orzecznik


Explanation:
medium dlatego że nie jestem pewien że to właściwe slowo na 'coroner'.
W kilku jurysdykcjach common law, zgon stwierdza urzędnik, który nie jest lekarzem, ani nie ma żadnego poważnego wykształcenia medycznego. I dlatego ten formularz mówi coś o 'certified examiner', po angielsku 'coroner'.
Przekład polski w takiej sytuacji powinien unikać sugerowania, że ten urzędnik ma coś wspólnego z medycyną. Coroner NIE jest patologiem. Zajmuje sie tylko stwierdzaniem zgonu. Jeżeli są podstawy do przypuszczeń o nienaturalnej śmierci, (w tym samobójczej, zaniedbania itp.) wzywa policję

Stanislaw Semczuk
Local time: 20:22
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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1 day 52 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
lekarz medycyny sądowej vs lekarz poświadczający


Explanation:
medical examiner vs cerifying physician
lekarz medycyny sądowej vs lekarz poświadczający (przyczynę zgonu)

certifier - osoba poświadczająca
---

Medical examiner: A physician, acting in an official capacity within a particular jurisdiction, charged with the investigation and examination of persons dying suddenly, unexpectedly, or violently, or whose death resulted from, or presents, a potential public health hazard. The medical examiner is not always required to be a specialist in death investigation or pathology. Most systems employing physicians as part time medical examiners encourage them to obtain training for medical examiners such as that offered by the National Association of Medical Examiners.

Coroner: A coroner is a public official, appointed or elected, in a particular geographic jurisdiction,whose official duty is to make inquiry into deaths in certain categories. In some jurisdictions, the coroner is a physician, but in many localities, the coroner is not required to be a physician nor be trained in medicine.

Pronouncing physician: The one who determines the decedent is legally dead. Not all states requirea death to be pronounced by a physician.

Certifying physician: The one who certifies the cause of death.

https://mdedge-files-live.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/files/s...
https://www.mdedge.com/familymedicine/article/60314/cause-de...

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Note added at 1 day 59 mins (2019-07-16 13:21:36 GMT)
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the pronouncing and certifying physicians may be different, in which case the pronouncing physician completes items 24 through 31 and the certifying physician items 32 through 49. If the pronouncing physician is also the certifying physician, items 26 through 28 need not be completed. If the death is referred to the coroner or medical examiner, they complete items 24, 25,29, 30, and 32 through 49.


mike23
Poland
Local time: 20:22
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Native speaker of: Native in PolishPolish
PRO pts in category: 416
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thank you!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.
26 mins
  -> Dziękuję, Frank. Pozdrawiam serdecznie.

agree  Marcin Pustkowski: Bardzo ważny wpis. Pozdrawiam Mike!
3 days 1 hr
  -> Dziękuję Marcinie. Staram się :) Pozdrawiam.
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Reference comments


8 hrs peer agreement (net): +1
Reference: medical examiner

Reference information:
A medical examiner is an official trained in pathology that investigates deaths that occur under unusual or suspicious circumstances, to perform post-mortem examinations, and in some jurisdictions to initiate inquests.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_examiner

Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.
United States
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in PolishPolish
PRO pts in category: 2217

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  mike23
16 hrs
  -> Thanks a lot, Mike.
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