Glossary entry (derived from question below)
May 15, 2020 22:39
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English term
Brazil
Literature, subtitling, academic article
Native in: Portuguese (Variant: Brazilian)
Works in: English to Portuguese, French to Portuguese, German to Portuguese
Sarser
English to Portuguese
Art/Literary
Poetry & Literature
English literature/Charle
The context here comes from a House to Let by Charles Dickens. I cannot guess the meaning, it would be possibly a tip or a little investment. Please help me, here are some passages:
HE had no property, nor hope of property, except his house and a sarser.
And when I say a sarser, I mean a Chaney sarser in which he made a collection for himself at the end of every Entertainment.
The sarser was a little income, bringing him in so many halfpence that he'd carry 'em for a week together, tied up in a pocket- handkercher.
Everywheres, the sarser was a goin round.
HE had no property, nor hope of property, except his house and a sarser.
And when I say a sarser, I mean a Chaney sarser in which he made a collection for himself at the end of every Entertainment.
The sarser was a little income, bringing him in so many halfpence that he'd carry 'em for a week together, tied up in a pocket- handkercher.
Everywheres, the sarser was a goin round.
Proposed translations
(Portuguese)
| 4 +2 | pratin |
Anderson Calixto
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| 4 | pires de porcelana (chinês) |
MARCOS BAZILIO
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| 2 | pires |
Matheus Chaud
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Change log
May 15, 2020 22:45: Matheus Chaud changed "Level" from "Non-PRO" to "PRO"
Sep 20, 2020 04:19: Anderson Calixto Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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Anderson Calixto
Brazil
Brazil
Native in Portuguese
Specializes in field
Brazil
Audiovisual Translator
Native in: Portuguese
Works in: English to Portuguese, Portuguese, Portuguese to English
Related KudoZ points
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4
Selected
pratin
Possivelmente sarser seja uma grafia que Dickens usou para imitar a pronúncia "errada" de pessoas de condição humilde, como é o caso do personagem em questão. Referência: "(...) Lindley Murray (...) placed sarcer for saucer under 'Words which are often pronounced very erroneously' (...). https://books.google.com.br/books?id=JHxaAAAAMAAJ&dq=sarcer ...
Outra referência: sarse (countable and uncountable, plural sarses)
Eye dialect spelling of sauce.
1833, John Neal, The Down-Easters, Volume 1:
I wanted cabbage or potaters, or most any sort o' garden sarse … .
1870, Thomas Bailey Aldrich, The Story of a Bad Boy:
"I don't want any of your sarse," said the boy, scowling.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sarse
Em vista disso, escolhi "pratin" para ser fiel ao recurso literário usado por Dickens. Pois pires é um "pratinho sobre o qual se coloca a chávena" https://pt.wiktionary.org/wiki/pires
("Chaney" talvez corresponda a "China", que significa porcelana.)
Outra referência: sarse (countable and uncountable, plural sarses)
Eye dialect spelling of sauce.
1833, John Neal, The Down-Easters, Volume 1:
I wanted cabbage or potaters, or most any sort o' garden sarse … .
1870, Thomas Bailey Aldrich, The Story of a Bad Boy:
"I don't want any of your sarse," said the boy, scowling.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sarse
Em vista disso, escolhi "pratin" para ser fiel ao recurso literário usado por Dickens. Pois pires é um "pratinho sobre o qual se coloca a chávena" https://pt.wiktionary.org/wiki/pires
("Chaney" talvez corresponda a "China", que significa porcelana.)
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
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Matheus Chaud
Brazil
Brazil
Native in Portuguese
Works in field
Brazil
IT Specialist • M.A. in Linguistics
Native in: Portuguese (Variant: Brazilian) 
Works in: English to Portuguese, Spanish to Portuguese, Portuguese to English, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
267
pires
Talvez uma forma "diferente" de dizer saucer?
https://books.google.com.br/books?id=cWkVAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA53&lp...
...and the cups and sarsers ready laid....
17 hrs
MARCOS BAZILIO
Brazil
Brazil
Native in Portuguese
Brazil
Generalist, SDL TRADOS! Engagement!
Native in: Portuguese (Variant: Brazilian)
Works in: English to Portuguese, Portuguese to English
Related KudoZ points
:
4
pires de porcelana (chinês)
Questão anteriormente discutida e escolhida no PROZ...
"chaney sarser" (china saucer) - Pires de porcelana
Selected answer:china shop
Explanation:
I found this http://dickens.classicauthors.net/goingintosociety/
Dickens' Going into Society, where he talks about
front door and parlour winders. (WINDOWS)
and a "chaney sarser" (china saucer)
In other words, the horse kicked in the windows in two china (dishware) shops ... HTH
Selected response from:
Patricia Rosas
United States
Local time: 09:05
(3 hrs behind you)
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Note added at 17 hrs (2020-05-16 16:09:58 GMT)
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https://www.proz.com/kudoz/english/poetry-literature/1819408...
"chaney sarser" (china saucer) - Pires de porcelana
Selected answer:china shop
Explanation:
I found this http://dickens.classicauthors.net/goingintosociety/
Dickens' Going into Society, where he talks about
front door and parlour winders. (WINDOWS)
and a "chaney sarser" (china saucer)
In other words, the horse kicked in the windows in two china (dishware) shops ... HTH
Selected response from:
Patricia Rosas
United States
Local time: 09:05
(3 hrs behind you)
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Note added at 17 hrs (2020-05-16 16:09:58 GMT)
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https://www.proz.com/kudoz/english/poetry-literature/1819408...
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