Jun 9, 2002 01:47
22 yrs ago
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English term

SS:

English to Russian Law/Patents
Acknowledgment

State of New York} SS:
Department of State}

Could you please tell me what "SS" stands for in this case, and what is the best translation for it?

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no meaning, no need to translate

Black's Law Dictionary:

ss. abbr. 1. Sections 2. Subscripsi (i.e. signed below). 2. Sans (i.e., without). 4. (Erroneously) scilicet.

"Many possible etymologies have been suggested for this mysterious abbreviation. One is that it signifies SCILICET (=namely, to wit), which is usually abbreviated sc. or scil. Another is that ss. represents @the two gold letters at the end of the chain of office or "collar" worn by the Lord Chief Justice of the King's Bench" Max Radin, Law Dictionary 327 (1955). Melnikoff suggests that the precise etymology is unknown: "Lawyers have been using SS for nine hundred years and still are not sure what it means". David Melnikoff The language of the Law 296 (1963). Etc....

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An attorney said it means nothing (as the Black's Law Dictionary says), it is just put at the end of a line on an official form after which the particulars start (name of attorney, name of client, name of case etc.).



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Yana, even if you transliterate this abbreviation, it\'ll amount to СС: which can confuse people into believing it means \"Copies to\".

Maybe just leave it like it is, in Latin letters - or omit altogether?

In principle, you can use the 4th meaning \"namely\" - а именно...

Probably, there is a tradition of how to translate this monster, but it means nothing...
Peer comment(s):

agree AYP : 4.
1 hr
Спасибо.
agree Yuri Geifman : I would leave it out, in Russian it will get confusing or cumbersome, and it carries no real meaning as far as the actual document is concerned
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agree Remedios : I do not translate it either - for the above reasons
2 hrs
Спасибо.
agree Сергей Лузан : О, да!
1 day 7 hrs
agree Maka Berozashvili
1 day 13 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Большое спасибо, Татьяна! Столько интересной информации и отличный выход из положения!"
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State Secretary

I am not sure... but it could be
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а именно / то есть

ss – scilicet (лат.) = а именно, то есть
Peer comment(s):

agree Сергей Лузан : Верно.
1 day 6 hrs
спасибо
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См. ниже

Может быть, Social Security Department?


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Яна, этот вопрос уже обсуждался

Взгляните вот сюда:

http://www.proz.com/?sp=h&eid_c=4490&id=160377&keyword=scili...

В обсуждении есть еще много интересной дополнительной информации
Peer comment(s):

agree Сергей Лузан : Всё уже было, что навевает иногда пессимизм...
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Однако не всегда!
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