Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

frontier

Slovak translation:

pohraničie, pomedzie

Added to glossary by Igor Liba
Dec 30, 2009 13:11
14 yrs ago
English term

FRONTIER

English to Slovak Other History
How to translate the simpliest of all words - FRONTIER in a context of American history? (e.g. "The American frontier is sharply distinguished from the European frontier.")

Thank you.
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Jan 4, 2010 10:14: Igor Liba Created KOG entry

Discussion

Igor Liba Dec 30, 2009:
maria ja som vas nemienil poucovat, len som vam odporucal aby ste si vygooglovala celu vetu a tak nasla cely zdrojovy text, to je vsetko. pytala ste totiz uviest celu vetu.
Maria Chmelarova Dec 30, 2009:
Igor neda mi aby som sa nevyjadrila. Prosim vas nedavajte mi najavo ze som objavila internet dnes rano! Googlovanie nie je odpoved na vsetko ako aj wikipedia. Ale ak uz, dovolim si vam navrhnut aby ste si nasli na en.wikipedia napr. Turne's Frontier Thesis introduced in 1893, who was American historia, ....or en. wikipedia/Frontier a pod., mozno sa dozviete nieco extra. Navyse frontier nie je len pohranicie, pohranicna oblast ale aj "soldier" a preto som ziadal o vetu.
Igor Liba Dec 30, 2009:
maria pokial si pozriete ine webky zistite ze tato veta bola uvedena v "bulletin of the Superintendent of the Census" co je predmetom dalsej otazky. obidve otazky maju urcitu suvisklost ktora je z odkazov dost jasna
Igor Liba Dec 30, 2009:
maria staci, ak si vygooglojete celu vetu a hodi vam to cely text. cela veta sa googluje tak, ze ju uvediete do uvodzoviek ;-)
Maria Chmelarova Dec 30, 2009:
frontier najskor napiste vetu.

Proposed translations

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pomedzie / pohraničie

http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/afp/turner.htm
http://www.suh.sk/kozm301f/planeta.htm

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Note added at 16 mins (2009-12-30 13:28:21 GMT)
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The American frontier is sharply distinguished from the European frontier--a fortified boundary line running through dense populations. The most significant thing about the American frontier is, that it lies at the hither edge of free land. In the census reports it is treated as the margin of that settlement which has a density of two or more to the square mile. The term is an elastic one, and for our purposes does not need sharp definition. We shall consider the whole frontier belt including the Indian country and the outer margin of the "settled area " of the census reports. This paper will make no attempt to treat the subject exhaustively; its aim is simply to call attention to the frontier as a fertile field for investigation, and to suggest some of the problems which arise in connection with it.

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Note added at 4 days (2010-01-04 09:25:28 GMT)
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toto som našiel v Slovníku amerikanizmov (SPN):

Frontier - pohraničie - čerstvo osídlená oblasť na Západe hraničiaca s divočinou; podľa úradnej definície z roku 1874 územie s aspoň dvoma obyvateľmi na štvorcovú míľu.
Peer comment(s):

agree Michal Zugec
2 mins
ďakujem
agree Peter Kissik
14 mins
ďakujem
neutral Maria Chmelarova : Igor, preco si nepozriem? Ano pozrela, len povrchne akonahle som narazila hned na prvu vetu..." boundary line running through dense populations", plus dalsiu vetu. Pozrite si wikipediu a mozno tam najdete vy viac.
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Maria, skuste si otvorit tu prvu webku a pridete na to ze to je nazor niekoho ineho ale ide presne o text, na ktory sa pyta druhy Igor. Preco si nepozriete poriadne odkazy skor ako nieco napisete. Ani ja a ani vy nie sme odbornikmi na americku historiu.
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14 mins

divočina

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Peer comment(s):

disagree Peter Kissik : Omyl...
14 mins
neutral Maria Chmelarova : Nevidim vas doplnok nikde tuna, hoci si ho mozem precitat v mailovej schranke. Debatovala som to s manzelom a jeho prva definicia je ta ktoru zhruba uvadzate vy. Len sa mi velmi nepozdava vyraz divocina.
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pohranicna oblast

pohranicie
ak sa drzite dnesnej definicie podlozenej nasledovnym " is a political and geographical term reffering to areas near or beyond a boundary" , tak vam to postaci.
Ak chcete viac a napasovat to do textu s ktorym pracujete Frontier in colonial N.A. - "any part of the forested interior of the continent beyond the frindge of existing settlement". To je z en.wikipedia > Frontier > Turner' Theory...a viac, ako a vdaka comu sa tato definicia zmenila...

Frontier - a border, btw. two countries
a stronghold on a frontiers
a region that forms the margin of settled or developed
territory
a new field for exploitative or developmental activity
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