Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
once removed
Spanish translation:
de la primera generación
Added to glossary by
Melanie Casanova
Oct 31, 2005 10:32
18 yrs ago
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English term
once removed
English to Spanish
Social Sciences
Genealogy
I am translating a family tree that specifies all the relations between people. It is full of "second cousin once removed" "third cousin", "first cousin twice removed" etc. It is for a family in Mexico, so I am looking for Mexican translations for these terms. I know there is not a direct correspondence of the term; for example, I think "first cousin once removed" translates as "tio segundo" and "second cousin" is not the same as "primo segundo".
I would appreciate answers from any coleagues who know the proper terminology used in Mexiican genealogy. For your information here is a "Relationship table" for the English speaking world. If anybody knows of an equivalent with the Spanish equivalents I would be extremely grateful.
Many thanks in advance
http://members.aol.com/anolelady/cuztable.htm
I would appreciate answers from any coleagues who know the proper terminology used in Mexiican genealogy. For your information here is a "Relationship table" for the English speaking world. If anybody knows of an equivalent with the Spanish equivalents I would be extremely grateful.
Many thanks in advance
http://members.aol.com/anolelady/cuztable.htm
Proposed translations
(Spanish)
| 5 | de la primera generación |
Melanie Casanova
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| 4 | (sobrino/a)segundo/a |
muitoprazer (X)
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| 4 | tío segundo or tía segunda |
Ed McCann
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Proposed translations
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Melanie Casanova
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de la primera generación
en los árboles genealógicos suele hablarse en términos formales de familiares de primera, segunda, tercera... generación
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Comment: "Thank you Melanie. "
13 mins
(sobrino/a)segundo/a
also hijo/a de primo carnal.
21 mins
tío segundo or tía segunda
The term refers to cousin's of parents
You will find the term in the Oxford Superlex
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Note added at 26 mins (2005-10-31 10:59:04 GMT)
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Why not primo segundo for second cousin. The term means children of first cousins in both languages. I am not aware of a separate term in Mexican Spanish
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Note added at 1 hr 17 mins (2005-10-31 11:49:46 GMT)
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Hi Apricitas. OK the explanation: if my father has a first cousin then he is my first cousin too but, as he is removed from me by one generation, he is my "first cousin once removed". In Spanish he would be my "Tío segundo". My children would be first cousins twice reooved as they are two generations removed from the original relationship. Children of first cousins are second cousins and their children are third cousins - the once removed only refers to a relationship between generations, and not of the same generation. Is that what you wanted to know?
You will find the term in the Oxford Superlex
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Note added at 26 mins (2005-10-31 10:59:04 GMT)
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Why not primo segundo for second cousin. The term means children of first cousins in both languages. I am not aware of a separate term in Mexican Spanish
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Note added at 1 hr 17 mins (2005-10-31 11:49:46 GMT)
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Hi Apricitas. OK the explanation: if my father has a first cousin then he is my first cousin too but, as he is removed from me by one generation, he is my "first cousin once removed". In Spanish he would be my "Tío segundo". My children would be first cousins twice reooved as they are two generations removed from the original relationship. Children of first cousins are second cousins and their children are third cousins - the once removed only refers to a relationship between generations, and not of the same generation. Is that what you wanted to know?
Note from asker:
| Thanks for your explanation, Ed. I think I understand the relationships in English, but the Spanish term is my headache |
Discussion
But anyway, what is once/twice/3X removed