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English language (monolingual) [PRO] Marketing - Textiles / Clothing / Fashion / Fashion Retailing/Shopping/Marketing Tips
English term or phrase:*S* of *T*
Dear Colleagues,
I have a super super PRO question for you. Perhaps as native speakers you can better understand and know what is meant by the following term (in asterisks). Thank you in advance for your clues.
========================================================= The reason why I’m writing you these unsolicited opinions, without us knowing each other at all, is that I strongly believe there is a lot of unfulfilled potential left for BG to exploit, which upsets me greatly. It really does. What upsets me most of all though is your lack of a proper personal shopping facility.
>>>Being BG and not offering an in-house personal shopping service is like being the **S of T** and not having a sommelier.
Explanation: Well, in that case, it's a waste of time even worrying about what it might stand for, just find some FR cultural equivalent.
If it's mentioning a sommelier, chances are it's specifically a very posh restaurant; the Tour d'Argent in Paris is probably the right sort of thing — just as one might refer to the Ritz or the Savoy in London.
Personally, I wouldn't tend to try to abbreviate it in FR — it sounds like some kind of inverted snobbery in EN ("Oh but my de-ar, I thought everyone knew the dear old S of T!")
Restaurant review: South of Temperance - The Globe and Mail www.m.theglobeandmail.com › ... › Life › Food & Wine › Restaurant Reviews Sep 10, 2012 – Toronto restaurants. Restaurant review: South of Temperance ... The dish that appears at S of T is seared tuna and in no way related to that ...
Lena Dunham Is Working on a New Show www.slate.com/.../lena_dunham_s_new_show_all_dressed_up_and... Jan 31, 2013 – ... runs a personal shopping service at Bergdorf Goodman in Manhattan. ... "Bergdorf Goodman has been dressing New York's one percent for .
Here is a guy who doesn't submit many Kudos questions, but has Answered quite a lot, like 1500! So of course I think that your long context is relevant and appropriate; nobody has to read the entire reference.
26 Jan 1901 - THE SULTAN OF TURKEY. - Trove www.trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/35386800 ... and Constantinople " in particular, was startled by the intelligence that Abdul Aziz, 'the Sultan of T'urkey, having been deposed .from his 'Imperial throne, had ...
Hi Tony, OK then... I'm releasing one hunch: I think it has to do with wine protocol or service, or big names in that field because "sommelier" is mentioned at the end. In terms of figures of speech or metaphor, I was thinking of "the cream of the crop" / "la crème de la crème" etc. I came up *tentatively* with a specific wine term in French, but I am awaiting all your input so as not to heavily influence your thoughts or put you perhaps on the wrong path. Let us wait some more and Thank you for all your help!
But the explanation, which doesn't really explain it, certainly is. If you as pro translator can't figure it out with the full text and all available and relevant info in front of you, then it's unreasonable and actually unfair to send the rest of us on a wild goose chase guessing in the dark. Please share the info you have. BG is not Bergdorf Goodman??? Is it a US text and if not, where is it from, what is it about, what readership is it aimed at? What does BG stand for???
To 'writeaway': 1) This is not a "long question". This is a TERM: "S of T". I provided further context in the form of the previous paragraph and the following one to help the colleagues have a better idea of the context. 2) Sometimes professional translators are just given little to NO context at all. We just have to work with what is given and make the best out of it. 3) I am resorting to the KudoZ Terminology Help PRECISELY because there is NOT much info given, any more details. In fact most of the original text is replete with abbreviations and unknown acronyms.
In this sort of situation, I actually think that's NOT a very productive thing to do; if you want us to help you, it would save our wasting precious time if you were to tell us what you have already tried and rejected, or what lines of research you are still considering. We really need ALL the information you can give us, otherwise we're just going to be wasting our time on a wild goose chase :-(
Hi Tony, I appreciate your speedy help. Per my reply in the EN>FR, I'm not sure where the text originates from. But you provided a good information and a clue. I'm withholding my hunches, because I don't want to influence your answers or lead you astray... :)
I see you have asked this as an En-Fr question too
17:45 May 21, 2013
but there is no helpful information to let us know exactly what or who BG is and/or exactly what the S of T is supposed to be. Super, super Pro help can only be provided if the vital tools, ie info, are provided by asker.
What country is this from? It sounds like S of T is the name of a terribly famous restaurant (or hotel) — only it might be hard to guess which if we have no clue whether this is USA, GB, or whatever?
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S of T
Tour d'Argent
Explanation: Well, in that case, it's a waste of time even worrying about what it might stand for, just find some FR cultural equivalent.
If it's mentioning a sommelier, chances are it's specifically a very posh restaurant; the Tour d'Argent in Paris is probably the right sort of thing — just as one might refer to the Ritz or the Savoy in London.
Personally, I wouldn't tend to try to abbreviate it in FR — it sounds like some kind of inverted snobbery in EN ("Oh but my de-ar, I thought everyone knew the dear old S of T!")
Tony M France Local time: 00:56 Native speaker of: English PRO pts in category: 20
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THANK YOU, soooooo very much to everybody! You are all indeed the very BEST!!
peer agreement (net): +4