Ritterbürger

English translation: citizen-knight

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German term or phrase:Ritterbürger
English translation:citizen-knight
Entered by: Kaportnoy

17:31 Mar 15, 2016
German to English translations [PRO]
History / Medieval History
German term or phrase: Ritterbürger
Statussymbol der ritterbürgerlichen Oberschicht scheinen auch gemauerte, mehrgeschoßige Wohntürme gewesen zu sein.

Were these people knights? Any ideas?
Kaportnoy
Local time: 17:42
citizen-knight
Explanation:
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This was a specific tier of medieval German society. The other terms suggested are either too broad (nobility) or inappropriate to the period (middle class).
Heinrich Heine:
http://www.forgottenbooks.com/readbook_text/The_Works_of_Hei...
http://gutenberg.spiegel.de/buch/vermischte-schriften-385/5
I'm not convinced by the choice of 'burgher'.
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Lancashireman
United Kingdom
Local time: 22:42
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Summary of answers provided
3 +1citizen-knight
Lancashireman
3Upper class / middle class
Machiel van Veen (X)
2nobility/peerage
Ramey Rieger (X)
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English and German titles
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nobility/peerage


Explanation:
or noblesse

Ramey Rieger (X)
Germany
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Upper class / middle class


Explanation:
A knight normally was somebody from the upper class or middle class, a burgher only middle class or lower class. Ritterburgerlich stands somewhere inbetween of it, so I think it most probably that it must be middle class.

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Ritterburgerlich, yes, I think those people where knights. The social status is above burghers.

Machiel van Veen (X)
Netherlands
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citizen-knight


Explanation:
See Discussion Box.
This was a specific tier of medieval German society. The other terms suggested are either too broad (nobility) or inappropriate to the period (middle class).
Heinrich Heine:
http://www.forgottenbooks.com/readbook_text/The_Works_of_Hei...
http://gutenberg.spiegel.de/buch/vermischte-schriften-385/5
I'm not convinced by the choice of 'burgher'.


Lancashireman
United Kingdom
Local time: 22:42
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agree  Machiel van Veen (X): Good find, Lancashireman. I agree.
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Reference comments


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Reference: English and German titles

Reference information:
Nobility that held legal privileges until 1918 greater than those enjoyed by commoners, but less than those enjoyed by the Hochadel were considered part of the lower nobility or Niederer Adel. Most were untitled, only making use of the particle von in their surnames. Higher-ranking noble families of the Niederer Adel bore such hereditary titles as Ritter (knight), Freiherr (or baron) and Graf. Although most German counts belonged officially to the lower nobility, those who were mediatised belonged to the Hochadel, the heads of their families being entitled to be addressed as Erlaucht ("Illustrious Highness"), rather than simply as Hochgeboren ("High-born"). There were also some German noble families, especially in Austria, Prussia and Bavaria, whose head bore the titles of Fürst (prince) or Herzog (duke); however, never having exercised a degree of sovereignty, they were accounted members of the lower nobility (e.g., Bismarck, Blücher, Pless, Wrede).


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https://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_nobility



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