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Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

h.B. & D.E.

English translation:

Holy Brother & Dionysius the Humble

Added to glossary by Adrian MM.
Sep 22, 2019 21:10
4 yrs ago
German term

h.B. & D.E.

German to English Social Sciences Religion
In a Catholic parish history from Minnesota, written in the 1870s: "Die Seelsorge in Meiers Grove uebertrug nun Reverendissimus Abbas dem Priester Matthias Sautner, dem als Ordensname der des h.B. & D.E. Anselmus gegeben ward." I understand that Anselmus was this priest's monastic name, but can't find any reference to the abbreviations h.B. and D.E. Any suggestions?
Proposed translations (English)
3 Holy Brother & Dionysius the Humble
Change log

Sep 24, 2019 07:38: Adrian MM. Created KOG entry

Discussion

Armorel Young Sep 24, 2019:
@Adrian I'm not pouring cold water on traditional religious nomenclature and I may simply be thick, but I don't understand what Dionysius Exiguus has to do with it if the priest's monastic name was Anselmus. With your translation, the sentence becomes "... who as a monastic name was given that of the Holy Brother & Dionysius the Humble Anselmus". I don't understand what that means, since Dionysius' name wasn't Anselmus. As I said before, could you please explain how you think this should be interpreted? I'm perfectly aware that it may just be me not getting it, but I need the interpretation - and the link between Dinoysius and Anselm - spelt out.
Timoshka (asker) Sep 22, 2019:
@ philgoddard You might be onto something. Maybe "des heiligen Bischofs" for "h.B."? Still not sure what "D.E." might be. Of course, maybe that "E" stands for "Episcopus" in Latin (=Bishop)?
philgoddard Sep 22, 2019:
Anselm was a saint, a bishop, and a doctor of the church. I don't know if that's a clue or I'm barking up the wrong tree.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anselm_of_Canterbury

Proposed translations

2 hrs
German term (edited): h.B. & D.E. heiliger Bruder & Dionysius Exiguus
Selected

Holy Brother & Dionysius the Humble

Nowt to do with HB > Helvetisches vs. AB > Augsburger Bekenntnis

Dionysius Exiguus > a Christian Monk and scholar, founder of the Christian (or Dionysian) era: AD 500? - ? AD 550 (Langenscheidt Enz. WB)
Example sentence:

Dionysius Exiguus (Latin for "Dionysius the Humble"[a]; c. AD 470 – c. AD 544) was a 6th-century monk born in Scythia Minor (probably modern Dobruja, in Romania and Bulgaria).

Reference:

http://gebetssammlung.blogspot.com/2013/06/novene-zum-heiligen-bruder-konrad-von.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dionysius_Exiguus

Peer comment(s):
neutral Armorel Young : I don't get it - how does this fit with the name Anselmus? - please explain.
1 day 9 hrs
I am surprised that you are pouring cold and unholy water on this traditional nomenclature en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_name // JTB would not be spelt out as John the Baptist as a prefixed religious name. Otherwise, feel free to post your own answer.
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