Jun 23, 2021 15:15
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Indonesian term

RT/RW Rukun Tetangga/Rukun Warga

Indonesian to English Other General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters
I'm interested to find out how people translate this as there's no equivalent 'structure' in English-speaking countries.

Discussion

D. I. Verrelli Jun 26, 2021:
Not exactly the same? "Namun, sejarah RT/ RW tidak sama dengan neighborhood unit. Istilah Rukun Tetangga (RT) dan Rukun Warga (RW) dalam penataan lingkungan masyarakat merupakan peninggalan dari pemerintah Jepang."
from https://repository.its.ac.id/393/1/3212201001-paper.pdf
(cited by Elfi Liu).
—DIV
D. I. Verrelli Jun 26, 2021:
Number of residents "Dasar unit lingkungan (neighborhood unit) yang ada dalam tata cara perencanaan lingkungan perumahan kota (BSN, 2003) dan berlaku di Indonesia adalah satuan unit administrasi pemerintahan yaitu satu RT yang terdiri dari 150-250 jiwa penduduk; satu RW terdiri dari 2.500 jiwa penduduk (8-10 RT); satu kelurahan terdiri dari 30.000 jiwa penduduk (10-12 RW); satu kecamatan terdiri dari 4-6 kelurahan/ lingkungan; sedangkan untuk terbentuk 1 kota membutuhkan sekurang-kurangnya 1 kecamatan. "
from https://repository.its.ac.id/393/1/3212201001-paper.pdf
(cited by Elfi Liu).
—DIV

Proposed translations

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Selected

Neighborhood unit / Community unit

RT --> Neighborhood unit
RW --> Community unit

The Jakarta Post and several research papers use these terms.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/294886072_The_Role_...

https://journal.lppmunindra.ac.id/index.php/STRING/article/v...

https://www.jstor.org/stable/3350693

https://repository.its.ac.id/393/1/3212201001-paper.pdf

https://eprosiding.idbbali.ac.id/index.php/senada/article/do...

https://ejournal.undip.ac.id/index.php/jsinbis/article/downl...

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Note added at 1 hr (2021-06-23 17:13:10 GMT)
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Example sentences are from The Jakarta Post articles.
Example sentence:

It is such relieving news to know that people can now renew their identity cards without recommendation from community unit (RW) and neighborhood unit (RT) heads.

Jakarta Governance Bureau head Premi Lasari has said leaders of the city’s many neighborhood units (RT) and community units (RW) had initiated efforts to protect vulnerable groups from COVID-19 transmission.

Peer comment(s):

agree frz
2 hrs
Thank you. :)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Hi Elfi, thanks for the reply."
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20 mins

Neighborhood Association/Residents Association

These are what I always use and I haven't had any complaints.
Note from asker:
Hi Edward, thanks for taking the time to reply.
Peer comment(s):

agree Tantie Kustiantie : This Neighborhood usually consist of 40 houses
2 days 9 hrs
neutral D. I. Verrelli : An "Association" to me has the connotation of an NGO/group that residents would set up themselves and (at their own discretion) opt into. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_association https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neighborhood_association
2 days 23 hrs
Very valid point! I think I will switch to using Unit rather than Association, since an RT is certainly not a voluntary association.
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325 days

Neighbourhood Head

RT/RW - Neighbourhood Head
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