Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Italian term or phrase:
costruire sul costruito
English translation:
building on the (already) built
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Miriam Bontorin
Oct 2, 2012 12:56
11 yrs ago
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costruire sul costruito
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Architecture
I have some difficulties in finding the right translation for "costruire sul costruito" and also the structure of the whole sentence. The field is architecture, in specific an aritcle on the Venice Lagoon, its architecture and its changes.
"Progettare e costruire sul costruito presenta rispetto alla nuova costruzione, l’ineludibile esigenza di confrontarsi con le preesistenze individuando, rispetto ad esse, i principali spunti di intervento"
My attempt:
"To plan and to build on the existent involve, with regards to the new structure, the unavoidable requirement to confront with the preexistences identifying, with regards to these, the starting points for intervention".
Many thanks
"Progettare e costruire sul costruito presenta rispetto alla nuova costruzione, l’ineludibile esigenza di confrontarsi con le preesistenze individuando, rispetto ad esse, i principali spunti di intervento"
My attempt:
"To plan and to build on the existent involve, with regards to the new structure, the unavoidable requirement to confront with the preexistences identifying, with regards to these, the starting points for intervention".
Many thanks
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +2 | building on the (already) built |
philgoddard
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| 5 | develop existing buildings |
Dr Lofthouse
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| 4 | modifying existing buildings |
Tom in London
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| 3 -1 | "brownfield development" |
Oliver Lawrence
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Proposed translations
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philgoddard
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129
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building on the (already) built
A literal translation works fine, in my opinion. It means working around what already exists, rather than demolishing it all and starting again.
Example sentence:
A return to Jaffa would entail fundamentally a return to the urban and building on the built.
3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "much appreciated :)"
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2 mins
Oliver Lawrence
Italy
Italy
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Italy
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Native in: English (Variants: UK, British)
Works in: Italian to English, English
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56
"brownfield development"
With the inverted commas given the Venetian context is somewhat particular. But I'd say that's the basic term.
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Tom in London
: I wouldn't say that "brownfield development" is applicable to Venice. I'm trying to think of a more apposite way to say it.
3 mins
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26 mins
Tom in London
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
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United Kingdom
Architecture, design, technical, etc.
Native in: English (Variant: British) 
Works in: Italian to English
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601
modifying existing buildings
Here's my first translation of the sentence. It could be improved but it's better than yours, I think; at least it's intelligible.
"As compared to new construction, modifying existing buildings means that the the existing fabric has to be assessed to identify which parts might be suitable for intervention"
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Note added at 29 mins (2012-10-02 13:25:19 GMT)
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"the the" is a trick :)
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Note added at 29 mins (2012-10-02 13:25:54 GMT)
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BTW I do this; I'm an architect.
"As compared to new construction, modifying existing buildings means that the the existing fabric has to be assessed to identify which parts might be suitable for intervention"
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Note added at 29 mins (2012-10-02 13:25:19 GMT)
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"the the" is a trick :)
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Note added at 29 mins (2012-10-02 13:25:54 GMT)
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BTW I do this; I'm an architect.
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
philgoddard
: I don't think it's just about buildings - it's the whole infrastructure, including things like roads and parks.
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Quote "The field is architecture, in specific an aritcle on the Venice Lagoon, its architecture and its changes"
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Barbara Carrara
: You have changed, Tom! Once upon a time you would never have offered your translation of a whole sentence to the asker, as this would be her/his job... Or wouldn't it? Ciao!
45 mins
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I know, Barbara, but in this particular case, it was a question of life or death !
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3 hrs
Dr Lofthouse
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2
develop existing buildings
reasonable alternative to avoid use of 2 x 'build' - although,isn't this '
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