Dec 19, 2011 17:13
12 yrs ago
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Russian term
United Kingdom
Native in: English (Variant: British) 
Works in: Greek to English, Czech to English, Slovak to English, and 1 more.
обида за державу
Russian to English
Other
Idioms / Maxims / Sayings
"Самый влиятельный во всех отношениях человек в крае" (так называют xxxx СМИ) утверждает, что на открытый конфликт с губернатором его толкнула "обида за державу". Но возможно и другое объяснение ...
I've seen a similar phrase with обидно rather than the noun обида. I suspect the meaning is similar, but I'd like to make sure.
I've seen a similar phrase with обидно rather than the noun обида. I suspect the meaning is similar, but I'd like to make sure.
Proposed translations
(English)
Proposed translations
+4
14 mins
Sam Pinson
United States
United States
Native in English
Works in field
United States
ATA and SDL Trados Certified, IT, legal
Native in: English (Variant: US)
Works in: Russian to English
Related KudoZ points
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8
Selected
see explanation
(in this context)...hurt his national pride...
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Svetlana Potton
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VicSot
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Amy Lesiewicz
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cyhul
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
4 mins
Daniel Frisano
Italy
Italy
Italy
100% human translation, always
Native in: Italian
Works in: English to Italian, French to Italian, German to Italian, and 14 more.
resentment over power
Not sure if I got the meaning right, but this could be an option.
+1
27 mins
Olga Dyussengaliyeva
Kazakhstan
Kazakhstan
Native in Russian
Kazakhstan
A professional, who knows the oilfield
Native in: Russian
Works in: English to Russian, Russian to English, German to Russian, and 1 more.
the insult for what's done to Great State
"за державу обидно" is a quote from the movie The White Sun of the Desert - a GREAT Russian (Soviet) movie. The quote became very popular and widely used. (by the google search link you can appreciate how commonly used it ishttp://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=за держа... The quote that you are translating is derived from this famous one with an obvious "hint" to it's origin, therefore with quotation marks. Therefore I suggest to translate it as above and make a translators' comment or a footnote with reference to the actual quote and the source of it. Hope it helps.
Example sentence:
Vereschagin: You do know me, Abdulla: I don\'t accept graft - it is what is done to the Great State that insults me.
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Ella Mykhailova
: I would rather say "resentment at what's been done to his homeland"
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Mark Berelekhis
United States
United States
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&
English
Works in field
United States
Exemplary quality, truly bilingual
Native in: Russian , English
Works in: Russian to English, English to Russian, English
Related KudoZ points
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136
felt compelled to defend/stand up for the state
The meaning is the same, but you need to render it differently to sound native.
40 mins
hurt feelings for the State
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44 mins
feeling aggrieved for the homeland
Just another version to be added to the previous ones.
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Note added at 14 days (2012-01-02 18:02:58 GMT) Post-grading
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My feeling is that "hurt his national pride" is not the same as the Russian "за державу обидно."
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Note added at 14 days (2012-01-02 18:02:58 GMT) Post-grading
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My feeling is that "hurt his national pride" is not the same as the Russian "за державу обидно."
Discussion
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/russian_to_english/poetry_literatu...
http://forum.lingvo.ru/actualthread.aspx?tid=11292
http://forum.lingvo.ru/actualthread.aspx?tid=23935
http://www.multitran.ru/c/m.exe?a=4&MessNum=245969&l1=1&l2=2