"Математику только за то учить следует, что она ум в порядок приводит"
English translation: We should study mathematics for no other reason than to organize our minds.
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peer agreement (net): +1Math(ematics) should be learned if only because it brings order to the mind Explanation: This is how I would render it. |
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peer agreement (net): +1it is reasonable to learn math, even if it is just because it brings order to the mind Explanation: My take on it -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 4 hrs (2015-01-20 03:07:16 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- or: Math should be learned even if for no other than reason than that it brings order to the mind. |
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14 hrs confidence: peer agreement (net): +1
peer agreement (net): +1Mathematics should be studied if only because it organizes the mind. Explanation: только за то учить следует - "should be studied if only because". она ум в порядок приводит - "it organizes the mind". this reflects the passive verb form of the original as well. -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 19 hrs (2015-01-20 17:36:19 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- to organize _is_ to order, and staying in the passive verb form reflects the more archaic spirit. it is closer both in meaning and in style (of a proverb). and also easier to comprehend that the more literal translations. in your variant you at least need to move the words around for easier comprehension: "even if it will only bring". |
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We should study mathematics for no other reason than to organize our minds. Explanation: У этого высказывания несколько вариантов, среди которых такие: Why do we learn mathematics? Because it organizes our mind. Why learn maths? Because it develops orderly minds! Из всех глаголов наиболее емким мне кажется organize (If you organize a set of things, you arrange them in an ordered way or give them a structure. - Collins Cobuild). Вместо bring я бы использовал глагол develop и тогда всю фразу можно передать так: It makes sense to study mathematics if only to develop an organized mind. -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 1 day11 hrs (2015-01-21 10:26:54 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- Согласен с архаикой. В таком случае я бы предпочел вместо mind слово более академичное, если так можно выразиться, - intelligence (if only to provide organization for your intelligence). Пусть будет оборот вроде этого: Mathematics must be studied if only because it puts the mind in order (http://www.google.ru/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=... -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 2 days15 hrs (2015-01-22 13:39:54 GMT) Post-grading -------------------------------------------------- Thanks for grading, Tagir! Anyway, it's up to you to make the choice you think best suits the context under discussion. If you feel that the link provides a clue for your translation purposes, then go for it. Good luck! https://www.google.ru/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CBwQFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.math.auckland.ac.nz%2FEven Reference: http://www.math.umt.edu/tmme/vol7no2and3/5_Amit_TMMEvol7nos2... |
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| Reference: Existing Translation Reference information: “Mathematics should be learned just because it disciplines and bring up the mind”. This translation is presented on the website of AP Ershov Institute of Informatics Systems (ИСИ СО РАН) – see the reference. Reference: http://www.iis.nsk.su/fwfm2013 |
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