соцлагерь

English translation: socialist camp

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Russian term or phrase:	соцлагерь
English translation:	socialist camp
Entered by:	_TILLI

12:55 Nov 6, 2007

Russian to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Journalism / politics

Russian term or phrase: соцлагерь

Контекст с явно принебрежительным оттенком, в двух словах такой :

...
буржуи взвалили отвественность за загрязнение на недоразвитые страны из соцлагеря...

только пжста, не надо social camps :)

спасибо!

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socialist camp

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BBC News Online | Europe | Press sees Socialist divisions
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But others think the left will have to undergo a complete rethink, and predict new rivalries in the Socialist camp. One major regional daily, Ouest-France, ...
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BBC News | Europe | New chairman for Socialist International
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... "modernisers" led by British Prime Minister Tony Blair and the more traditional socialist camp represented by his French counterpart Lionel Jospin. ...
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BBC NEWS | Europe | Poles return to Russian language
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... among many Russians at least - that Russian was destined to become the language of choice for the nations of the expanding "socialist camp". ...
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BBC NEWS | World | Europe | French voters split on working week
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... her to leave the system untouched if she is elected. A newcomer, she has shown that she is not afraid to take on traditionalists in the socialist camp. ...
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6625583.stm - 59k - Сохранено в кэше - Похожие страницы - Записать
BBC NEWS | Programmes | The Westminster Hour | Sunday Supplement ...
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... aged 15 and a half, was about to land at Warsaw's Okecie airport, my first visit to a capital in Eastern Europe, the Warsaw Pact, the socialist camp, ...
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BBC NEWS | Europe | Hotel offers 'East German chic'
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In the reception four clocks are another throwback to the "socialist" camp, showing the time in Moscow, Berlin, Havana and Beijing. ...
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BBC NEWS | World | Europe | French voters split on working week
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A newcomer, she has shown that she is not afraid to take on traditionalists in the socialist camp. FRENCH ECONOMIC WOES. Slowest-growing large EU economy ...
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BBC - h2g2 - The Forth World War - A364655
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while there was certainly a defeat (of the socialist camp), it is hard ... combination of all this led to the socialist camp being undermined ...
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BBC News | Europe | Blair backs euro
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The BBC's Robin Oakley reports on the mood in Europe's socialist camp. Mr Blair was at a meeting of the leaders of Party of European Socialists (PES) in ...
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а CNN доверяете ?

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CNN Cold War - Historical Documents: Cuba-Angola letters
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(T)he Angolans complained about the paucity of aid from the socialist camp, and they pointed out that if the socialist camp does not help them, ...
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CNN Cold War - Historical Documents: Castro-Honecker meeting
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It is in favor of supporting Libya, as long as military aid is confined to the socialist camp. That is not only a question between Cuba and Algeria. ...
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CNN Cold War - Interviews: Fidel Castro
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And I don't know whether anyone can doubt that the socialist camp and the USSR lost the Cold War. Because what happened was the disintegration not just of ...
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CNN Cold War - Historic Documents: Letter from Ho Chi Minh
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The U.S. war of aggression against the Vietnamese people constitutes a challenge to the countries of the socialist camp, a threat to the national ...
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CNN Cold War - First Draft
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The Soviet Union and all the countries in the socialist camp have proposed that the capitalist camp choose just this path. And the best propagandist for ...
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ASIANOW - TIME Asia | TIME 100: Deng Xiaoping | 8/23/99-8/30/99
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This view has since been embraced by the majority of Chinese people and has become the reformist stand within the socialist camp. ...
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CNN Cold War - Historical Documents: Brezhnev's conversation with ...
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... which will decide the fate not only of the Communist Party of Czechoslovakia, but also of the whole socialist camp. I'm not demanding anything new, ...
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CNN - First Draft
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... are trying to divert the Hungarian people from the path of peace and socialism and to discredit their friendship with the peoples of the socialist camp. ...
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CNN Cold War - Profile: Josip Broz Tito
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Stalin's responsed in June 1948 by expelling the "Tito clique" from Cominform, in essence, kicking Yugoslvia out of the "socialist camp" to go it alone. ...
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CNN.com - Transcripts
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And he said too closely aligning myself, he said, with the socialist camp. HANDEL: That`s interesting. Mort, we have to run. Thank you very much. ...
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CNN - First Draft
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... and cynical allocation by the American government of $100 million for subversive terrorist and espionage work in the countries of the socialist camp, ...
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CNN Cold War - First Draft: Door slammed on spying noses
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... which is in the territory of the German Democratic Republic, and to send spies and saboteurs into the G.D.R. and the socialist camp countries across an ...
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CNN - Cold War Experience: Espionage
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Berlin was in this exotic position, right in the heart of a socialist country, or a country within the socialist camp or the Warsaw Pact countries. ...
www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cold.war/experience/spies/interviews/w... - 29k - Сохранено в кэше - Похожие страницы - Записать
CNN Cold War - Interviews: Fidel Castro
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... which would improve the balance of power in favor of the Soviets and the socialist camp, as well as the strategic position of the Soviet Union. ...
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ASIANOW - Asiaweek | ASEAN: An Indochinese Caucus | 11/5/99
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Theirs is very much a Cold-War foreign policy of close friendship with the socialist camp." The Vietnamese also have hardlining Myanmar on their side. ...
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CNN Cold War - First Draft: Foil the criminal schemes of the ...
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The mighty socialist camp and all peace-loving nations of the globe are with revolutionary Cuba. Let the authors of the criminal plans make no mistake. ...
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CNN Cold War - Historic Documents: Khrushchev-Ulbricht meeting
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We will clear up who was more guilty, but we, the socialist camp as a whole, acted incorrectly here. We must create the conditions so that the GDR economy ...
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CNN Cold War - Documents: Soviet meeting on Hungary
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The question of a troop withdrawal from Hungary -- this question must be considered by the entire socialist camp. The authority of the HWP CC must be raised ...
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CNN - The Cuban missile crisis is long gone but hardly forgotten ...
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"The only thing we felt was that we were being supported by the socialist camp from a powerful neighbor that was trying to turn us into dust using military ...
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а вот ссылки с сайта парламента Великобритании

House of Commons Hansard Debates for 2 Dec 1992
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... which was an imposed federation, or the so-called "socialist camp" of communist countries, which was imposed. I know that it is not exactly the same, ...
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Scottish Parliament - Official Report
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In the socialist camp, we have no time for terrorism. We believe in mass, organised action. We believe in disobedience if it is civil, but we are not going ...
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House of Commons Hansard Debates for 17 Nov 1999 (pt 2)
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I am not in the old Liberal, but in the democratic socialist camp. As a democratic socialist, I am happy about some aspects of the Queen's Speech. ...
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Selected response from:

Alexander Onishko

Grading comment

убедили :)
3 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

5 +5

socialist camp

Alexander Onishko

4 +3

the communist block

Alexander Demyanov

5 +2

eastern-block countries

Michael Tovbin

4 +1

countries of the communist persuasion

Anton Konashenok

3 +1

socialist community

Olga Shevchenko

former Soviet Union and its satellites

Alexander Kondorsky

socialist regimes

Valery Kaminski

Discussion entries: 2

Answers

10 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

countries of the communist persuasion

Explanation:
...blamed the underachiever countries of the socialist persuasion...
в переводе обратно на русский, "страны коммунистического толка". Только не socialist, конечно, поскольку в английском это слово описывает только западных социалистов.

Anton Konashenok
Czech Republic
Local time: 23:11
Native speaker of:

Russian,

English
PRO pts in category: 12

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

Anastasia Novoselova: I would say "countries of the communist block"

10 mins

-> Sure. I used "persuasion" just to add some derogation to it...

disagree

Alexander Demyanov: 1. A generalistic expression without a well defined meaning, whereas "соцлагерь" included a specific number of countries. 2. A rather obscure expression, whereas "соцлагерь" is a very common one.

33 mins

-> Thanks for the opinion!

agree

The Misha: It's not exactly what the original says, but sure sounds good. Some people just fail to see the elagance in a phrase.

2 hrs

-> Thanks :-))

neutral

Vladimir Dubisskiy: Китай не относится (не относился) к соцлагерю. Это "СССР + страны народной демократии" - ГДР, НРБ, ПНР, ВНР, СРР, ЧССР, МНР и Куба. Не уверен насчет СФРЮ.

18 hrs

-> А как же КНДР, Вьетнам, Лаос? Они же вроде тоже...

21 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

socialist community

Explanation:
возможно так

Olga Shevchenko
Ukraine
Local time: 00:11
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Russian

26 mins confidence:

former Soviet Union and its satellites

Explanation:
сейчас соцлагеря в прежнем понимании не существует, поэтому мой ответ предполагает, что переводимый материал относится к прошлому времени

Alexander Kondorsky
Russian Federation
Local time: 00:11
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Russian

20 mins confidence:

socialist regimes

Explanation:
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http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:vYhcc5ld20QJ:www.fao.or...

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socialist economies представляются еще одним возможным вариантом

Valery Kaminski
Belarus
Local time: 00:11
Works in field
Native speaker of: Russian

39 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +5

socialist camp

Alexander Onishko
Native speaker of:

Russian,

Ukrainian
PRO pts in category: 15

Grading comment

убедили :)

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

Vanda Nissen

26 mins

-> Спасибо, Ванда!

neutral

Michael Tovbin: CNN-овские ссылки - перевод с русского, а не оригинальный текст. В ссылках на BBC и Парлемент - речь о партиях социалистического направления. Не убедили./Надо смотреть цитату.

1 hr

-> а если я, например, найду цитату из речи Рейгана - это вас тоже не убедит?

agree

The Misha: It's a good choice - but we don't trust BBC anyway.

1 hr

-> Thank you, Misha!

agree

GaryG: A common phrase among historians: http://www.wilsoncenter.org/news/docs/Russia 1993 conference...

2 hrs

-> Thank you very much, Gary!

agree

Andrey Belousov (X)

2 hrs

-> Спасибо, Андрей!

agree

Tsogt Gombosuren

15 hrs

-> Спасибо большое !!!

38 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

the communist block

Explanation:
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or, better yet, "...bloc"

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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS220US220&...

Alexander Demyanov
Local time: 17:11
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Russian
PRO pts in category: 28

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

Mark Vaintroub: the countries of the Eastern bloc is the first thing coming to my mind

16 mins

-> Thanks, Marik!

agree

Amy Lesiewicz

1 hr

-> Thanks, Amy!

agree

Andrey Belousov (X)

2 hrs

-> Thanks, Andrey!

agree

stanna (X)

3 hrs

-> Thanks, stanna!

neutral

Vladimir Dubisskiy: неточно с communist - Китай (коммунистический) но в соцлагерь не входил.

17 hrs

-> 1.You may well be wrong here: http://www.chronos.msu.ru/RREPORTS/pimenov_vospominaniya_1.h... (although ru.wikipedia supports your view).2. "соцлагерь" is not only СЭВ or Warsaw Pact. 3. "Communist country" and "communist bloc" are different concepts.

disagree

Alexander Onishko: w/Vladimir Dubisskiy коммунизм и социализм - это совсем не одно и то же

19 hrs

-> I believe you're w/yourself. This is not an ideology discussion but a translation forum.

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

eastern-block countries

Explanation:
так это называлось, помнится

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пренебрежение в этой фразе также имеет место быть

Michael Tovbin
United States
Local time: 16:11
Native speaker of:

English,

Russian

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