Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Serbian term or phrase:
prognano lice
English translation:
displaced person
Added to glossary by
Veronica Prpic Uhing
Jun 22, 2006 13:39
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prognano lice
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Nadležan organ za naplatu, Opština i FZO: prognano lice
Nadležan organ za naplatu, Opština i FZO: prognano lice
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +5 | displaced person |
Sherefedin MUSTAFA
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| 4 +5 | exiled person |
Bogdan Petrovic
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| 4 +3 | refugee |
Davorka Grgic
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| 4 +1 | person in exile |
Goran Tasic
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| 4 +1 | deported person |
BUZOV
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Proposed translations
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3 mins
Sherefedin MUSTAFA
Netherlands
Netherlands
Netherlands
Eppur si muove!
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displaced person
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http://www.oscebih.org/overview/gfap/eng/annex7.asp
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Note added at 9 mins (2006-06-22 13:49:48 GMT)
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Google skoro svuda daje:
Internally displaced persons
http://www.ceeol.com/aspx/issuedetails.aspx?issueid=554d1b2b...
http://www.oscebih.org/overview/gfap/eng/annex7.asp
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Note added at 9 mins (2006-06-22 13:49:48 GMT)
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Google skoro svuda daje:
Internally displaced persons
http://www.ceeol.com/aspx/issuedetails.aspx?issueid=554d1b2b...
Peer comment(s):
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Goran Tasic
: Zdravo Sherefedine, mislim da to ipak znaci raseljeno lice.
8 mins
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Hvala Gorane. Ako je srpski tekst onda se verovatno ovaj pojam razlikuje od "izbeglice"... Ako je hrvatski onda je bukvalno: refugee = izbeglica.
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A.Đapo
: refugee-izbjeglica prognanik-displaced person
14 mins
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Zahvaljujem Amra.
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Bogdan Petrovic
: izbeglica nije isto sto i raseljeno lice. Cesto se kaze "izbeglice i raseljena lica"
29 mins
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Izvini Bogdane ali ne sećam se da sam negde tvrdio da je to isto. Naprotiv.
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V&M Stanković
: to bi bilo tzv. "raseljeno lice" - znači samo u okviru jedne države (po opštoj terminologiji UNHCR-a)
58 mins
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u pravu ste.
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drhukic (X)
: U Bosni je kao vrijedio princip ako ste prognani untar maticne drzave da ste displaced person.
4 hrs
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Hvala.
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Radica Schenck
: 100% ste u pravu sa "displaced person" i prema terminologiji UNHCR-a isto tako :) njihov recnik: http://www.refugeethesaurus.org/
7 hrs
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Hvala.
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gordana djordjevic
17 hrs
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Hvala.
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Kornelija Karalic
: Može i ovo i Exiled person ili samo exile.
1 day 22 hrs
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Zahvaljujem.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Hvala!"
+3
8 mins
Davorka Grgic
Competent quick and precise.
Native in: Croatian , Spanish
Works in: Dutch to Spanish, Dutch to Croatian, English to Croatian, and 12 more.
refugee
...hrv. prognanik
http://www.unhcr.ch/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/home
Who is a refugee?
According to the 1951 Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees, a refugee is a person who "owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion, is outside the country of his nationality, and is unable to or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail himself of the protection of that country."
Peer comment(s):
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V&M Stanković
: mada je prognano lice = exile (tj. direktno prognan, oteran u drugu državu - nekim aktom ili postupkom vlasti, znači bez ikakve mogućnosti izbora), ipak se "refugee" (striktno značenje: izbeglica) često koristi i u tom smislu
48 mins
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Hvala, Vesna. To je pojam koji se univerzalno koristio u UN / NATO izvijescima s terena u ex-YU (radila sam za njih, na zalost). Mislim da potpuno odgovara kontekstu ovdje.
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Radica Schenck
: "refugee status" ne podrazumeva se samo po sebi, prognano ili raseljeno lice, lice u egzilu itd. mogu POTRAZITI DA DOBIJU STATUS IZBEGLICE, zar ne? hvala na odgovoru, po mom skromnom shvacanju genericki pojam je "DP", zbog toga pitam..pozdrav! :)
7 hrs
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Mislim da se previse komplicira. Ovdje se znacenja pojmova preklapaju i razlikuju od jedne do druge definicje. Za mene je "refugee" genericki pojam za sve one koji su pobjegli od kuce ybog ugrozenosti i u bilo kojem pravcu.
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Iva Pajvancic
1 day 2 hrs
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zoe1
1 day 20 hrs
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Kornelija Karalic
: Ja sam bila izbjeglica u proslom ratu ali me niko nije otjerao sama sam otisla. Prognanike otjeraju na silu. Mislim da je u tome razlika. Exiled person.
1 day 22 hrs
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maid
: jel mi moze teko objasnit jasnu razliku izmedju izbjeglica i raseljenih lica...hvala unaprijed
1232 days
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19 mins
Goran Tasic
Serbia
Serbia
Native in Serbian
Serbia
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Native in: Serbian 
Works in: English to Serbian, German to Serbian, Serbian to English, and 2 more.
person in exile
Lice koje je silom naterano da ode od svog mesta boravka.
Refugee gore je izbeglica, Internally displaced persons znaci interno raseljena lica (lica koja nisu otisla van svoje maticne drzave).
Refugee gore je izbeglica, Internally displaced persons znaci interno raseljena lica (lica koja nisu otisla van svoje maticne drzave).
Peer comment(s):
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BUZOV
7 mins
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Sherefedin MUSTAFA
1 hr
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Bogdan Petrovic
: pardon, hteo sam da kazem da nije isto prognanik i raseljeno lice... Nisam ni mislio da smatrate da je to isto.
1 hr
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Radica Schenck
: prvo je lice prognano, pa nakon sto su ga prognali, je ili raseljeno ili u egzilu (koji god bio razlog: politicki, socijalni, itd.).
6 hrs
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Kornelija Karalic
: Ovo bi bilo ''osoba u progonstvu''. Samo Exile.
1 day 22 hrs
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34 mins
deported person
[PDF] MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE GENERAL PEOPLE’S COMMITTEE ...File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
If the deported person is arrested or detained, he will be informed ... The deported person will have unimpeded access to the monitoring body unless they ...
www.icj.org/IMG/pdf/05.10.09_DWA_M_Libya_FINAL.pdf -
Requests for search of documents on deportation and Jews registername and surname of deported person.
date and place of birth ... relationship to deported person, or verified authorisation in the case of representing such ...
www.civil.gov.sk/SNARCHIV/uk_search_on_deportation.htm
REPATRIATION AND ADAPTATION OF GEORGIA’S MESKHETIANS:Obscurity of the ethnic background of deported people forms a fertile ... who considers that deported person should be able to choose any place to live ...
www.policy.hu/sumbadze/osiipf.html -
If the deported person is arrested or detained, he will be informed ... The deported person will have unimpeded access to the monitoring body unless they ...
www.icj.org/IMG/pdf/05.10.09_DWA_M_Libya_FINAL.pdf -
Requests for search of documents on deportation and Jews registername and surname of deported person.
date and place of birth ... relationship to deported person, or verified authorisation in the case of representing such ...
www.civil.gov.sk/SNARCHIV/uk_search_on_deportation.htm
REPATRIATION AND ADAPTATION OF GEORGIA’S MESKHETIANS:Obscurity of the ethnic background of deported people forms a fertile ... who considers that deported person should be able to choose any place to live ...
www.policy.hu/sumbadze/osiipf.html -
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45 mins
Bogdan Petrovic
Serbia
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Serbia
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exiled person
da budem iskren, ne bih znao koja je razlika izmedju izbeglica i prognanika, ali evo kako ih zovu UN...
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Pardon, evo cele recenice:
In a statement read out by its President, Peter Burleigh (United States), the Council called on Croatia to address the perceived lack of security, which is contributing to the Serb departures, and to remedy a number of problems which are preventing the full implementation of the "Programme for the Return and Accommodation of Displaced Persons, Refugees and Exiled Persons".
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Note added at 49 mins (2006-06-22 14:29:41 GMT)
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Pardon, evo cele recenice:
In a statement read out by its President, Peter Burleigh (United States), the Council called on Croatia to address the perceived lack of security, which is contributing to the Serb departures, and to remedy a number of problems which are preventing the full implementation of the "Programme for the Return and Accommodation of Displaced Persons, Refugees and Exiled Persons".
Example sentence:
In a statement read out by its President, Peter Burleigh (United States), the Council called on Croatia to address the perceived lack of security, which is contributing to the Serb departures, and to remedy a number of problems which are preventing the fu
Peer comment(s):
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V&M Stanković
: tako je, a dovoljno je i samo "exile"
17 mins
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hvala!
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Goran Tasic
: Kolega, razlika je sto je izbeglica sam otisao pod vihorom rata a prognanik je proteran
21 mins
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Hvala. Pa da, ali veliki broj izbeglica je otisao zato sto ih je nekao prognao, direktno ili indirektno. Jasno mi je sta zelite da kazete, ali da ne ulazimo u sitna crevca. Ja mislim da generalno reci refugee ili exiled persons nije pogresno
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Sherefedin MUSTAFA
: Ovo je najbolje resenje. Sada mi je jasno na koja prognana lica se misli.
59 mins
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Hvala!
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zoe1
: Pa slazem se sa vama ali mislim da exile ima jednu nijansu "dobrovoljnog" odlaska
2 hrs
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hvala, imate potpuno pravo
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Radica Schenck
: prvo je lice prognano, pa nakon sto su ga prognali, je ili raseljeno ili u egzilu (koji god bio razlog: politicki, socijalni, itd.).
6 hrs
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Jelena Bubalo
6 hrs
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Kornelija Karalic
: Izbjeglica moze i sama pobjeci a prognanik je na silu otjeran iz svog doma. Kao sto kaze Vesna dovoljno je samo exile.
1 day 21 hrs
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Discussion
Exile – external exile (deportation) internal exile (forced resettlement) and self-exile (usually political)
Displaced person – DP – is person who has been forced to leave his or her native place
Refugee is a person seeking asylum in a foreign country in order to escape persecution. Some regional legal instruments further include those seeking to escape generalized violence in the definition of a refugee: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugee
Moj izbor prema izloženom i wikipediji je DP šta ne znači da je to zadnje na temu pa vas molim da ne povlačite odgovore/komentare.
http://www.refugeethesaurus.org/hms/unilister.php?show=refth...
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