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Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

Suboficial Técnico de Primera

English translation:

Technical Noncommissioned Officer First Class

Added to glossary by schmetterlich
Dec 4, 2021 23:21
2 yrs ago
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Spanish term

Suboficial Técnico de Primera

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POLICIA NACIONAL DEL PERÚ

PERSONAL DE SUBOFICIALES DE ARMAS
- Suboficial Superior : SS
- Suboficial Brigadier : SB
- Suboficial Técnico de Primera : ST1
- Suboficial Técnico de Segunda: ST2
- Suboficial Técnico de Tercera : ST3
- Suboficial de Primera : S1
- Suboficial de Segunda : S2
- Suboficial de Tercera : S3

Gracias
Proposed translations (English)
4 Technical Noncommissioned Officer First Class
3 +1 Specialist NCO - First Class
References
Context - refs.

Discussion

Marcelo González Dec 6, 2021:
I disagree, Chris Selecting a target variety as part of one's overall approach is appropriate. And in this context where there may not be national police forces (that immediately come to mind) in the English-speaking world, the next best option might be state or provincial forces, so the U.S. with its 50 state police forces might be useful here, as would the 14 state police forces in Australia, the various provinces of Canada, the force in Scotland, and the one in Northern Ireland.
AllegroTrans Dec 6, 2021:
OK The USA has numerous police forces and they don't all have the same rank system. Nuff said.
schmetterlich (asker) Dec 6, 2021:
Thank you for your replies. The target audience is the USA.
AllegroTrans Dec 6, 2021:
Where we are going? Could be just about anywhere. IMO it is dangerous and confusing to mushroom this into a so-called equivalent police rank in another country. A country-neutral term is called for which leaves it crystal clear that this is from Peru.
Marcelo González Dec 5, 2021:
@Taña - yes, Peru ... which is why I did not say 'where we are' ... just 'where we're going' :-) i.e., the target variety/country
Taña Dalglish Dec 5, 2021:
@ Marcelo At the top the country is stated. It is Peru. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Police_of_Peru
From the link, you will note that "Suboficial Técnico Primero", "Suboficial Técnico Segundo" and "Suboficial Técnico Tercero" have an equivalent NATO ranking of WO-3, WO-2, and WO-1 and corresponds to the category of "Chief Warrant Officer" (WO-3, 2) and Warrant Officer (WO-1) which I understand is no longer in use. https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Policía_Nacional_del_Perú and https://www.google.com/search?q=Chief Warrant officer "subof...
Marcelo González Dec 5, 2021:
Context - target variety Knowing where we're going would be helpful, particularly important in this context perhaps, where police ranks should be fairly easy to find. Of course, there is no national police, as such, in the US, nor in the UK, so the various U.S. state police departments might be helpful (for the New Jersey State Police ranks I've come across, see below).

Police technician.
Police officer/patrol officer/police detective.
Police corporal.
Police sergeant.
Police lieutenant.
Police captain.
Deputy police chief.
Chief of police.

Proposed translations

7 days
Selected

Technical Noncommissioned Officer First Class

In this context, I would choose the already known terms for this rank:
"Technical Noncommissioned Officer First Class". This is because of my own experience in the military field.
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13 hrs

Specialist NCO - First Class

Specialist NCO Basic Training - MORHhttps://www.morh.hr › ... › News·
Specialist NCO Basic Training. 02.03.2012. share page: The specialist part of the 40th generation of NCO basic training was conducted from 5 December 2011 ...

Military Crosswalk for Occupational Category - State ...https://hr.sao.texas.gov › MOSC_HumanResourcesPDF
Specialist NCO. 47F USMA, Professor of. Systems. Engineering. 0913 Marine Combat. Instructor. 5977 Weapons and. Tactics Instructor. Aviation Command.
3 pages

PFI Open Tours - Defense Finance and Accounting Servicehttps://www.dfas.mil › 210208-PFI-OpenTours-508PDF
Feb 8, 2021 — Medical Logistics Specialist NCO. Army. E6, E5. Riyadh. Saudi Arabia. Click HERE to · apply. 20-0142. Defense Security Cooperation Agency.
Peer comment(s):
neutral AllegroTrans : Your refs are from anywhere but Peru ansd is there any such rank as "NCO" in the Peruvian police force?
11 hrs
Yes, that is what a "suboficial" is. My intention was to coin an English equivalent with some backing from English-speaking sources. I now see that Taña has found some English refs for Peru that support my choice.
agree Taña Dalglish
1 day 4 hrs
Thank you, Taña!
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Reference comments

14 hrs
Reference:

Context - refs.

This is far from an easy one (tricky):
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Military_ranks_of_Peru
National Police of Peru
Suboficial Técnico 1º
Suboficial Técnico 2º
Suboficial Técnico 3º

Equivalent (NATO rank)
WO-3
WO-2
WO-1


https://www.ccffaa.mil.pe/cultura-militar/grados-militares/


https://www.lexico.com/es-en/traducir/suboficial
suboficial
noncommissioned officer, n.
NCO

https://sawadee.wiki/wiki/Police_rank

In summary, and in all likelihood, the closest you may get is "non-commissioned offer" (NCO) - specialist as per patinba's suggestion.

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Note added at 14 hrs (2021-12-05 14:05:06 GMT)
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https://sawadee.wiki/wiki/Police_rank (see under Peru).


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Note added at 14 hrs (2021-12-05 14:07:44 GMT)
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Oops, apologies for the last link which is a duplicate! Uuf! I meant to post this one: https://www.wiki.en-us.nina.az/Military_ranks_of_Peru.html#T... (see National Police of Peru).

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Note added at 1 day 12 hrs (2021-12-06 12:02:20 GMT)
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Here is a link from Peru and references the "first technical non-commissioned officer" which is equivalent to WO-3 (NATO).

5 policemen fall for belonging to a criminal gang in Ayacucho https://today.in-24.com/News/262773.html
19 Aug 2021 — “The Police want to be the best institution in Peru,” added the ... and the first technical noncommissioned officer Alfredo Garay Garay, ...


Vraem: the terrorist killings perpetrated in the last thirteen years https://then24.com/2021/05/24/vraem-the-terrorist-killings-p...
24 May 2021 — At least three NCOs of the National Police died in a narco-terrorist ... The victims were the **first technical noncommissioned officer**, ...
Peer comments on this reference comment:
agree AllegroTrans : Yes, indeed not easy and risky to "force" an equivalent rank in an En spkg. country or NATO
10 hrs
Thank you. However, I disagree with your neutral on patinba's proposal! The rank is an NCO (non-commissioned officer) which does exist in Peru and evident by all the links provided! This has nothing to do with "forcing" an equivalent, IMO!
agree Marcelo González : useful references, Taña and, agreed: this is not easy. An approach is needed, and one based on NATO ranks may be an option
10 hrs
Thanks Marcelo.
agree patinba : Thank you for those refs that would seem to confirm at least part of my coinage!
22 hrs
Absolutely. Thank you.
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