Apr 25, 2008 09:12
16 yrs ago
French term
France
Experience and feel
Native in: French 
, English (Variant: British)
Works in: English to French, French to English
reconduites à la frontière
French to English
Other
Government / Politics
The latest polemic here in France and though have ideas am unsure.. It is obviously about the quotas of illegal migrants to be sent back to their home country and the methods used (kids after school and so on) A highly political paper with and from organisations de "sans papiers". Will put in a couple more questions on this!
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +1 | forcible removals |
Aude Sylvain
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| 3 +6 | register ? |
CMJ_Trans (X)
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| 4 +1 | escorted to XXX's borders |
Pauline Teale
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| 4 +1 | removed/expelled/repatriated/returned to the point of entry |
AllegroTrans
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| 4 | redirected to the border |
Bunsen (X)
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| 3 | deported |
Jaimie Boyd
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Proposed translations
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43 mins
Aude Sylvain
France
France
Native in French
Specializes in field
France
Also a senior lawyer - 12 years in IP
Native in: French 
Works in: English to French, French
Related KudoZ points
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16
Selected
forcible removals
Another possibility, official expression used by the European Court of Justice
Order of the Court of Justice (Third Chamber) of 18 March 2004 (....) Validation procedure for the order for the **forcible removal** of a third country national — (...)
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:C:2...
Ordonnance de la Cour (troisième chambre) du 18 mars 2004 (...) Procédure de validation de l'ordre de **reconduite forcée à la frontière** d'un ressortissant d'un pays tiers — (...)
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:C:2...
Order of the Court of Justice (Third Chamber) of 18 March 2004 (....) Validation procedure for the order for the **forcible removal** of a third country national — (...)
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:C:2...
Ordonnance de la Cour (troisième chambre) du 18 mars 2004 (...) Procédure de validation de l'ordre de **reconduite forcée à la frontière** d'un ressortissant d'un pays tiers — (...)
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:C:2...
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "thks, think this formal expression is best for me here"
+1
4 mins
Pauline Teale
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Travel and tourism specialist
Native in: English
Works in: French to English, Italian to English
escorted to XXX's borders
This is how the BBC puts it.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4608108.stm
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Note added at 6 mins (2008-04-25 09:18:37 GMT)
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Quote from a BBC article "The minister wants to see a significant rise in the number of illegal immigrants escorted to France's borders and deported."
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4608108.stm
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Note added at 6 mins (2008-04-25 09:18:37 GMT)
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Quote from a BBC article "The minister wants to see a significant rise in the number of illegal immigrants escorted to France's borders and deported."
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
rkillings
: But as a practical matter, it's a figure of speech. "Deported" would do.
11 hrs
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I agree it's a figure of speech but one that is used very frequently, in the British media, at least.
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+6
10 mins
register ?
It depends on the register of your "text" but you could simply say
"sent back home"
"expelled from the country"
or of course it may be the literal "escorted" version but, in my experience, the French use this turn of phrase very often as a euphemistic way of saying it. English tends to be more blunt
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Note added at 14 mins (2008-04-25 09:27:09 GMT)
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given their marching orders
"sent back home"
"expelled from the country"
or of course it may be the literal "escorted" version but, in my experience, the French use this turn of phrase very often as a euphemistic way of saying it. English tends to be more blunt
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Note added at 14 mins (2008-04-25 09:27:09 GMT)
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given their marching orders
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
sueaberwoman
: With the first two suggestions. Right, I'll keep that in mind next time I comment on yr stuff!
8 mins
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yeah - the last was a "clin d'oeil"
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| agree |
Ghyslaine LE NAGARD
: Yes with "sent back home" which is what is done as illegals are flewn back to their country of origin
24 mins
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| agree |
Grace Delobel
: with "expelled" -- guessing that this would best match the tone of the report
36 mins
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| agree |
swanda
: expelled is much better, see the link: http://europa.eu/scadplus/leg/en/lvb/l33104.htm
1 hr
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| agree |
katsy
: with expelled... can thus include those who were born in France (the children)
1 hr
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| agree |
Alana Quintyne
1 hr
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+1
3 hrs
AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Works in field
United Kingdom
Sensible solutions
Native in: English (Variant: Wessexois)
Works in: French to English, English, English to French
Related KudoZ points
:
49
removed/expelled/repatriated/returned to the point of entry
A few ideas - all of them in current use
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Conor McAuley
: (Edit) Returned to the point of entry (when the POE is known, along France's borders) I like, I don't think it means the whole Sarkozy stick 'em on a plane back home thing, it's a way of washing their hands of migrants
58 mins
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7 hrs
Jaimie Boyd
Canada
Canada
Native in English
Specializes in field
Canada
Speak Easy! Spanish, French, English
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, French to English
deported
This seems like the obvious choice to me, but I don't know how appropriate it is in British English. It is commonly used in North American discussions of immigration issues.
22 hrs
redirected to the border
seems to make sense
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