Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
conclure sur le fait que
English translation:
(we hope that we might) conclude that
French term
France
Style et précision.
Native in: Russian (Variant: Standard-Russia)
Works in: English to Russian, French to Russian, Russian to French, and 1 more.
conclure sur le fait que
Thank you in advance.
Jul 7, 2008 21:24: Richard Benham changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"
PRO (1): whither had (X)
Non-PRO (3): writeaway, transdoctor (X), Richard Benham
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Proposed translations
(we hope that we might) conclude that
Austria
more than thirty years of experience
Native in: German 
Works in: Greek to German, English to German, Greek to English, and 5 more.
we hopefully may conclude that
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Ghyslaine LE NAGARD
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thank you !
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liz askew
: Rather vague.
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why? is "nous espérons pouvoir conclure " less vague ?
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B D Finch
: This use of "hopefully" may be OK for US, but is wrong for UK English.
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had I termed it in a more British way, an American would find fault with it. Being the servant of two masters is not always attractive. dont you think so ?
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Richard Benham
: That use of "hopefully" is contested on both sides of the Atlantic. It is best, and easily, avoided.
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to conclude agreeing upon the fact that ....
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Richard Benham
: This is terrible style, and does not convey what appears to be the intended sense.
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whither had (X)
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We hope to conclude with the fact that
conclure sur le fait = conclude with the fact
I'd say "with" in English, not "on."
I hope this helps.
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Note added at 3 hrs (2008-07-07 15:53:46 GMT)
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No need to translate "pouvoir" as it's clearly implied in English without.
please see "explanation" below
conclude on the fact that
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Note added at 2 days4 hrs (2008-07-09 16:49:17 GMT)
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To make it clear, I would reword it as follows : Based on the results obtained, We can hope to conclude on the findings that Osteopathy can be an alternative to the standard treatment in the cadre of our study.
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Richard Benham
: English is my native language, and I am at a loss to assign a sense to this phrase.
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whither had (X)
: For Richard B. (hoping Ive got the system in control)..Ive been boggling my eyes at this sentence myself for the last 20 minutes/looking at all the answers...I would say that the French is a little unclear...and this makes it very difficult for the traBes
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agree upon the fact
I think this is the idea
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Note added at 3 days1 hr (2008-07-10 13:31:03 GMT) Post-grading
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To Mr Benham: I just find this quotation from G.B.Shaw and would like Mr Benham to express his opinion on it.
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one."
George Bernard Shaw
Irish dramatist & socialist (1856 - 1950)
http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/458.html
IF, the quotation is correct, maybe abomination is not the right word to use if Shaw also used those words.
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Richard Benham
: The expression "the fact that" is abomination, and should be avoided wherever possible. That includes here.
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B D Finch
: A fact is a fact whether or not anybody agrees upon it, though whether or not it is a fact might be a matter of opinion.
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