Jan 13, 2009 00:45
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English term
all-new vs. brand new
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Is "all-new" different from "brand new", and in case, what is the difference?
Example of use:
"Palm Unveils All-new webOS"
http://investor.palm.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=358392
Example of use:
"Palm Unveils All-new webOS"
http://investor.palm.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=358392
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| 5 +5 | yes |
Gary D
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| 4 +6 | completely updated vs. original creation |
Michael Powers (PhD)
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| 5 +4 | Yes, in theory! |
Tony M
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yes
all new, ie; an all new design
"an all new kitchen" would mean everything including the design, the plumbing, lighting and fittings and fixtures, flooring etc
"a brand new Kitchen", new cupboards and a few other things, not necessarily a new design, or new plumbing, or dish washer etc
Brand new - not second hand
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in your link you can see the wording "built from the ground up" this is "all new" started with a clean sheet of paper.
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Note added at 20 hrs (2009-01-13 21:43:51 GMT) Post-grading
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Thank you Egil
"an all new kitchen" would mean everything including the design, the plumbing, lighting and fittings and fixtures, flooring etc
"a brand new Kitchen", new cupboards and a few other things, not necessarily a new design, or new plumbing, or dish washer etc
Brand new - not second hand
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Note added at 12 mins (2009-01-13 00:57:46 GMT)
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in your link you can see the wording "built from the ground up" this is "all new" started with a clean sheet of paper.
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Note added at 20 hrs (2009-01-13 21:43:51 GMT) Post-grading
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Thank you Egil
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The Misha
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Thank you Misha
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Jack Doughty
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Thanks Jack
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Bashiqa
: Brand new as in just out of the showroom
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Thank you Bashiqa
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Phong Le
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Thank you Phong
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Ken Cox
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Thank you Ken
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks to all of you! It's not easy to pick one answer among three equally good answers, but I must make a choice. Kudos to all of you!"
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Michael Powers (PhD)
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completely updated vs. original creation
I believe there is a difference. "All new" implies updating or changing all aspects of something that existed before, whereas "brand new" is an original creation or invention, if you will.
Thus, an "all-new presentation" is the redoing of a former presentation, whereas a "brand new presentation" is one that did ever exist before.
Mike :)
Thus, an "all-new presentation" is the redoing of a former presentation, whereas a "brand new presentation" is one that did ever exist before.
Mike :)
Peer comment(s):
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Alice Bootman
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Thank you, Alice - Mike :)
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chaman4723
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Thank you, chaman4723 - Mike :)
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Maria Mandulova
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Thank you, Florance - Mike :)
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AniseK
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Thank you, Anisek - Mike :)
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Tony M
: I think your explanation is woolly, and in fact, could be the complete opposite of the actual state of affairs.
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I respectfully disagree; however, I appreciate your opinion.
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Alexandra Taggart
: "All new"-no one old vesion/non-updated part; "brand new"-new design
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Thank you, Alexondra - Mike :)
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jccantrell
: How I understand it, too.
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Thank you, jccantrell - Mike :)
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Yes, in theory!
'all-new' is intended to imply that everything about it is new, nothing of it existed before at all, etc.
'brand new' just suggests it is very recent, without such a connotation of anything innovative or original.
Cf.:
"I just bought a brand new car, but I got a good price, as it was last year's model."
"This year's all-new model is a complete departure for Renault, with a new engine, totally redesigned bodywork, and new, high-spec features."
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I added the caveat "in theory", because in actual practice these terms are often sprinkled liberally into marketing texts, without much care as to the literal, accurate meanings — all part of today's hype, I'm afraid!
'brand new' just suggests it is very recent, without such a connotation of anything innovative or original.
Cf.:
"I just bought a brand new car, but I got a good price, as it was last year's model."
"This year's all-new model is a complete departure for Renault, with a new engine, totally redesigned bodywork, and new, high-spec features."
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Note added at 7 hrs (2009-01-13 08:40:26 GMT)
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I added the caveat "in theory", because in actual practice these terms are often sprinkled liberally into marketing texts, without much care as to the literal, accurate meanings — all part of today's hype, I'm afraid!
Peer comment(s):
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Wil Hardman (X)
: I think your explanation is the most accurate, however I don't think the differences is always black and white (as you say) and in certain contexts the terms can be used interchangeably to transmit the same overall idea.
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Thanks, Wil! Yes, totally agree.
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Mark Nathan
: all-new suggests some element of design has changed, brand new just that it has been manufactured recently.
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Thanks, Mark! Yes, i think your explanation is rather more succinct than mine!
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Ken Cox
: and with Wil -- in the specific context of the asker's question, all-new (if it is true) means that every part of the OS has been made new (not copied or reused from a previous version). 'Brand-new' is generally the opposite of 'used' or 'second-hand'.
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Thanks, ken! Another good explanation.
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NancyLynn
: with Mark too
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Thanks, Nancy! HNY!
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Discussion
"All-new" is much more recent and belongs in the realms of advertising speak; it does not have a very precise meaning.