Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
logique capacitaire
English translation:
capacity design
Added to glossary by
veratek
Jun 24, 2009 19:05
14 yrs ago
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French term
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logique capacitaire
French to English
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IT (Information Technology)
Hi, this is my first question ever, I just hope the answer isn't laughably obvious, as I've been looking everywhere for it...
This term comes back again and again within a book about systems of systems, and I'm totally stumped. I'm thinking "logique" could be translated by something like "approach", but...
Some examples:
"Afin de garantir une certaine pérennité et une capacité d’évolution à un système de systèmes (ce qui est a priori incontournable dans une logique capacitaire incrémentale)"
"soit pour retirer du service un système de systèmes une fois la logique capacitaire initiale qui avait motivé son existence dépassée"
Any suggestion would be a life-saver!
This term comes back again and again within a book about systems of systems, and I'm totally stumped. I'm thinking "logique" could be translated by something like "approach", but...
Some examples:
"Afin de garantir une certaine pérennité et une capacité d’évolution à un système de systèmes (ce qui est a priori incontournable dans une logique capacitaire incrémentale)"
"soit pour retirer du service un système de systèmes une fois la logique capacitaire initiale qui avait motivé son existence dépassée"
Any suggestion would be a life-saver!
Proposed translations
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| 3 | capacity design |
veratek
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| 3 +2 | capacity rationale |
B D Finch
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| 2 | incremental approach to capacity |
Michèle Voyer
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Jun 26, 2009 12:22: veratek Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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capacity design
sounds fine in "an incremental capacity design" and "initial capacity design"
I would also suggest Capacity Planning or Capacity Plan as "an incremental capacity plan"
In this sentence "soit pour retirer du service un système de systèmes une fois la logique capacitaire initiale qui avait motivé son existence dépassée", however, I prefer:
initial capacity requirements
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Note added at 1 hr (2009-06-24 20:29:17 GMT)
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"that for now all suggestions could work, in one place or another!" -- This is my impression too, and what I think will work best for the translation. I don't see any reason to use only one fixed term for "logique capacitaire" when you can do a better job with other more precise terms, depending on the context. Then again, I haven't read the book!
I would also suggest Capacity Planning or Capacity Plan as "an incremental capacity plan"
In this sentence "soit pour retirer du service un système de systèmes une fois la logique capacitaire initiale qui avait motivé son existence dépassée", however, I prefer:
initial capacity requirements
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Note added at 1 hr (2009-06-24 20:29:17 GMT)
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"that for now all suggestions could work, in one place or another!" -- This is my impression too, and what I think will work best for the translation. I don't see any reason to use only one fixed term for "logique capacitaire" when you can do a better job with other more precise terms, depending on the context. Then again, I haven't read the book!
Note from asker:
| Oooh, I like "initial capacity requirements", thanks! The thing is, the term is used to frequently and for so many various reasons ("this word, I do not think it means what you think it means"), that for now all suggestions could work, in one place or another! |
3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks to everyone for your help! All suggestions were good, and considering the number of times the term appears in the document, all will be used in one place or another. But since I have to choose a "most helpful answer"...there you go!"
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Michèle Voyer
Switzerland
Switzerland
Native in French
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English
Switzerland
law & international affairs background
Native in: French (Variant: Standard-France) 
, English
Works in: English to French
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incremental approach to capacity
Je m'attribue un niveau de confiance bas par prudence mais je crois avoir saisi l'idée.
Mais il faudrait tout de même un peu plus de contexte. Je suppose que le système dont il est question est un système informatique. Mais il peut tout aussi bien s'agir d'autre chose.
Mais il faudrait tout de même un peu plus de contexte. Je suppose que le système dont il est question est un système informatique. Mais il peut tout aussi bien s'agir d'autre chose.
Note from asker:
| Tout d'abord merci de votre proposition! En fait, le livre porte sur les systèmes de systèmes en général, ce qui veut dire qu'à peu près tous les domaines (et les types de systèmes) sont abordés: communication par satellite, supermarchés, opérations militaires, gestion de crise, et j'en passe. J'attends de voir d'autres réponse, mais l'idée me paraît aussi être la bonne. |
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capacity rationale
Another term for you to play with!
"as effective/capable (capacity rationale) as catalysts for social change (transformative rationale) ... points system, just using rules of thumb. The only ..."
www.ukerc.ac.uk/Downloads/PDF/R/RVK_PDW_120606.pdf
"designated simply as the 'adaptive capacity' rationale.) ... curricula, and international cataloging systems for doctoral theses. ..."
www.atypon-link.com/EMP/doi/abs/10.5555/hesr.1992.2.1.21
"Those that really suffer from not allowing a mixed funding system are middle and lower income earners: ... Expanding capacity-rationale for ISTC programme ..."
www.amq.ca/mixite/QMA_241008ccl.ppt
"It was the recognition of a need for a system of public education that encouraged the application of fiscal capacity rationale to the shared responsibility ..."
scholar.lib.vt.edu/theses/available/etd-110498.../06-chap2.pdf
"as effective/capable (capacity rationale) as catalysts for social change (transformative rationale) ... points system, just using rules of thumb. The only ..."
www.ukerc.ac.uk/Downloads/PDF/R/RVK_PDW_120606.pdf
"designated simply as the 'adaptive capacity' rationale.) ... curricula, and international cataloging systems for doctoral theses. ..."
www.atypon-link.com/EMP/doi/abs/10.5555/hesr.1992.2.1.21
"Those that really suffer from not allowing a mixed funding system are middle and lower income earners: ... Expanding capacity-rationale for ISTC programme ..."
www.amq.ca/mixite/QMA_241008ccl.ppt
"It was the recognition of a need for a system of public education that encouraged the application of fiscal capacity rationale to the shared responsibility ..."
scholar.lib.vt.edu/theses/available/etd-110498.../06-chap2.pdf
Note from asker:
| Thanks a lot! The term surprised me, as I'd never read it anywhere, but I trust your research, and it sounds rather perfect considering the style of the book! Like I said above, since the term is used all the time and not always for the right reasons, I'll be juggling with all the forum's suggestions, depending on the author's real meaning. Thanks again! |
Peer comment(s):
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Anne-Marie Grant (X)
: Yes, I think 'rationale' is a good solution for 'logique'
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Thanks Anne-Marie
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| agree |
Michael Davies
: Yes, I think 'rationale' could be the word I was looking for - I definitely go along with it.
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Thanks Michael
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Discussion
Having googled the expression a bit, I see that there are very many hits (some 2.3 mio.) - suggesting that the phrase is commonly used. I then examined a couple of them to see if I could derive anything meaningful. Maybe purely by chance (but maybe because the expression is commonly used in that context), both examples were discussing the question of military capacity after the end of the cold war. It seems to me that 'logique capacitaire' must mean something along the lines of (logic ?) of capacity - i.e. the underlying assumptions, arguments, etc. in determining what the capacity should be - the reasoning. I can't find the right word in English right now but hope that my comments here might prompt someone else to come up with it. I'll be interested to know what the word I'm looking for (but cannot find!) is. Could it just be 'Basic assumptions concerning the planning of capacity' or 'Capacity planning constraints' or .... ????