Mar 8, 2010 13:05
14 yrs ago
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French term

militaire et ingénieur de formation

Non-PRO French to English Other International Org/Dev/Coop
militaire et ingénieur de formation, Mr Dupont devint pilote d'essais ....
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Proposed translations

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1 hr
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member of the armed forces and qualified engineer

or engineer by profession - in other words he's studied engineering

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militaire can be anything in French - soldier, sailor, airman
Peer comment(s):

agree writeaway : armed forces is as vague as militaire. good solution (text does say he's a test pilot after all......)
25 mins
thanks P! ;-)
agree Rob Grayson
3 hrs
thanks Rob :-)
agree Simon Mac
8 hrs
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22 mins

soldier and trained engineer

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11 mins

serviceman and training officer

militaire et ingénieur de formation
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serviceman and training officer

WR and GDT are useful sources here.

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WR = http://www.wordreference.com/fren/
GDT = http://www.granddictionnaire.com/BTML/FRA/r_Motclef/index102...

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ingénieur de formation n. m.
training officer


Définition :
Prépare seul ou en équipe l'animation pédagogique d'un groupe, propose des procédures pour assurer la progression du groupe et permettre d'atteindre ses objectifs.


Sous-entrée(s) :
quasi-synonyme(s)
ingénieur formateur n. m.
ingénieur-formateur n. m.

Note(s) :
Ayant de l'expérience en pédagogie, il sera chargé de la conception et de la diffusion des séminaires standards ou spécifiques à un client. Peut intervenir sur des contrats à l'étranger. Il sera responsable de la mise en œuvre d'un programme de formation aux systèmes de gestion. Il interviendra personnellement et assurera la formation de formateurs locaux.
Peer comment(s):

disagree Rob Grayson : "de formation" has nothing to do with being a training officer. It means he's a qualified engineer.
4 hrs
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2 hrs

A military man and an engineer by trade

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Peer comment(s):

agree BEVERLY OATES HREHOROW
19 mins
Thank you Beverly for your approval ... and welcome to ProZ.com ...
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1 hr

A soldier and engineer by training

I assume that "de formation" might refer to both "militaire" and "ingénieur".

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"... (*Rifleman by Training, Clerk-Typist by Accident. In North Africa, Italy, and Austria) (9781403331557): Wallace J. Gordon: Books."
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"Dr Dimitri CORPAKIS, an engineer by training, has to date more than 26 years experience in European affairs. Before joining the ..."
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One can be an engineer by training (formation) but never work as an engineer, perhaps moving on to work as a business manager, actor, writer of novels ... as a preferred career choice.
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