Mar 25, 2010 15:33
14 yrs ago
Russian term

сервильная интеллигенция

Non-PRO Russian to English Other Philosophy сервильная
In reference to someone's mindset.
Votes to reclassify question as PRO/non-PRO:

PRO (2): Alexander Onishko, Mikhail Kropotov

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Discussion

Mila1 (asker) Mar 27, 2010:
Алексей,
Спасибо за предупреждение, как я ответила раньше, я понимаю что ваш ответ более правильный. Мне именно нужен был смысл, который всё равно не понятный дословно. А вот линк Александра как раз вовремя направил меня на понятие этой фразы. Большое спасибо за внимание к этой теме.
Мила
Aleksey Chervinskiy Mar 27, 2010:
Мила, обратите внимание, что в дискуссии между Наумом Хомским и Стефаном Кубяком слово servilistic использует последний, родным языком для которого является польский. А в данной корреспондеции его английский пестрит ошибками, что г-н Кубяк сам и признает "First of all I must apologize for my language mistakes. I has recently checked my messages to you and I realized that I had made a lot of them".

В сети слово servilistic присутствует в основном только в восточно-европейских источниках, а в словарях английского языка оно отсутствует.

Бог с ними с баллами, просто хотел Вас предостеречь от использования некорректного слова.
Alexander Onishko Mar 26, 2010:
спасибо на добром слове :) *
Mila1 (asker) Mar 26, 2010:
Всему есть своё время, по правилам надо ждать сутки перед тем как выбирать вариант. Хоть и servile intellectuals более правильно, оба не понятно звучат по Английски, но Ваше объяснение помогло. Благодарю!
Alexander Onishko Mar 25, 2010:
спасибо на хлеб не намажешь... ... надо вам выбрать один из вариантовответа и отдать ему *очки*

Proposed translations

+1
4 mins
Selected

servilistic intellectuals

Noam Chomsky - Stefan Kubiak (1996)

... of cynic pragmatists, gangsters, fanatics and servilistic intellectuals. ...... the left) or hearing among the distinguished Cambridge intelligentsia. ...

www.ditext.com/chomsky/kubiak.html
Note from asker:
огромное спасибо! :-)
Peer comment(s):

agree gutbuster : sycophantic intellectuals
1 hr
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you, the link was very helpful."
+5
2 mins

servile intellectuals

надо полагать

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Note added at 1 hr (2010-03-25 16:58:28 GMT)
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Пожалуйста!
Note from asker:
огромное спасибо! :-)
Peer comment(s):

agree Jack Doughty
2 mins
Спасибо, Джек!
agree James McVay
18 mins
Спасибо, Джеймс!
agree Mikhail Kropotov
43 mins
Спасибо!
agree Judith Hehir
4 hrs
Спасибо, Джудит!
agree Radwan Rahman
17 hrs
Спасибо!
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21 hrs

subservient intelligentzia

1."servile" is related more to behaviour in terms of comportment rather than substance. For example, personally, I may behave towards you in a very servile fashion and yet publish a nasty article about you. Conversely, I can be gruff in my treatment of you and yet intellectually/politically/professionally subservient to you.
2. "Intelligentzia" is a legitimate term in English for a long time already; and it is so legitimized exactly because it's not at all synonymous to "intellectuals". Intelligentzia is a class of, roughly, "educated bourgeoisie": very few of them indeed are intellectuals proper.
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Спасибо!
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