Jul 20, 2010 13:51
13 yrs ago
French term

taillés en pleine masse orchestrale, sorte d’arrachés violents

French to English Art/Literary Music musique concrète
Contemporary programme notes by Pierre Schaeffer:

« La Sphoradie fut d’abord jugée irrecevable par ses premiers auditeurs, et défendue par l’auteur seul. Il faut bien dire que tout y choquait. Après une “exposition” de sillons fermés taillés en pleine masse orchestrale, sorte d’arrachés violents, on tombait tout à coup dans un quatuor à cordes, d’allure franquiste, qui insensiblement virait à l’envers, puis revenait à son romantisme de bon aloi. »

The image seems indivisible, so I've made it a single question.

Discussion

SMcG (X) Jul 21, 2010:
lock groove / locked groove(s) depending on context. closed groove is less common.

locked groove [′läkt ′grüv]
(design engineering)
A blank and continuous groove placed at the end of the modulated grooves on a disk recording to prevent further travel of the pickup. Also known as concentric groove.

note you can also create your own like Schaefer by sticking materials to the surface of the record.

examples of use:

"a one-sided 7" with multiple locked grooves and two center holes"

"The the end of side four is a lock groove"

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David Vaughn (asker) Jul 21, 2010:
jsmcgregor jsmcgregor,

I notice you use the term "locked groove". Any input on a preference for this term over "lock groove" and "closed groove"?

Thanks for any comments.
SMcG (X) Jul 20, 2010:
A composite of the answers?

carved out of the orchestral mass like violent gashes?

Bearing in mind that sillons fermés are locked grooves.

sur un disque, sillon formé de deux spires consécutives communiquant de sorte que le lecteur ne peut plus en sortir et répète indéfiniment le segment.

Proposed translations

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gouged violently/savagely out of the whole orchestral sound

Another version. I think "gouged" conveys both the meaning of carved into and torn out of.
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agree Philippa Smith : Yes, "gouged" is very nice....
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Thank you for your kind words, Philippa!
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carved straight from the orchestral block, (like) violent gashes

the metaphor seems to refer to carving and sculpture :

(furrows) carved straight from the orchestral block, violent gashes (different point of view here since "arraché" refers to the act of tearing a piece away)
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carved into the orchestral whole as if by violent attack

Using 'attack' to represent the 'snatching' idea of arrache.
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