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Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

diario popular

English translation:

the popular press

Added to glossary by Jay Noden
Dec 10, 2012 09:21
11 yrs ago
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Spanish term

diario popular

Spanish to English Art/Literary Journalism
In the past I think you could translate this term as 'tabloid' but today a lot of the 'Broadsheets' now have tabloid format but are not diarios populares. Popular newspaper sounded too literal to me? It basically refers to newspapers like the Daily Mail or the Sun which are read by a lot of people and are relatively easy to read through. Any ideas?
Proposed translations (English)
3 +6 the popular press
3 +2 red top newspaper
4 +1 Mass-circulation newspaper
2 Mainstream newspaper

Discussion

philgoddard Dec 10, 2012:
This is a very anglocentric discussion! The asker hasn't given any context or said what market the text is for, but I think terms like "red top" are far too narrow.
Also, "tabloid" is still widely used to mean "popular", even though many former broadsheets have switched to a tabloid format.
Carol Gullidge Dec 10, 2012:
you're right, Charles! But I was actually posting it in support of Peter's answer, which I thought was pretty good!
David Ronder Dec 10, 2012:
Thanks for butting in, Charles, you have cleared up a long-standing mystery for me. Always a source of enlightenment!
David Ronder Dec 10, 2012:
Just to go off on a slight tangent... ...in my experience as an English teacher, The Sun is only 'easy to read' for native speakers. Quite high-level educated learners of English struggle with its idioms, wordplay, popular culture refs and ellipses, finding papers like its NI stable-mate The Times more approachable. A common misconception about 'readability'.
Charles Davis Dec 10, 2012:
Pardon me for butting in but the explanation is that once you've posted an answer you can't post a reference, so the button disappears. You can post a reference then an answer, but not the other way round. I suppose you're meant to put any references you want to add as notes to your answer.
David Ronder Dec 10, 2012:
Good reference, Carol - and I can never find that reference tab when I need it, either.

Both 'tabloid' and 'red top' have their origin in literal features of the papers and while the terms are sometimes used loosely to refer to a 'popular' mentality, I think you need to bear that in mind and deploy them with care.

That's why I reckon 'mass circulation newspaper' (or more specifically, 'daily') works best for an individual title and 'popular press' for something more generic.
Carol Gullidge Dec 10, 2012:
apologies I would have put that in the Reference section, but that option has disappeared!
Carol Gullidge Dec 10, 2012:
on red-top papers (et al) UK Newspaper Guide


Traditionally, UK newspapers could be split into more serious-minded newspapers, usually referred to as the broadsheets due to their large size, and sometimes known collectively as "the quality press", and less serious newspapers, generally known as tabloids, and collectively as "the popular press", which have tended to focus more on celebrity coverage and human interest stories rather than political reporting or overseas news. The tabloids in turn have been divided into the more sensationalist mass market titles, or "red tops", and the middle-market papers.

However, both The Independent and The Times have switched in recent years to a compact format, not much bigger than that used by the tabloids. The Guardian switched in September 2005 to what is described as a "Berliner" format, just slightly larger than a compact. Its Sunday stablemate The Observer has since followed suit. Other Sunday broadsheets, including The Sunday Times, which tend to have a large amount of supplementary sections, have kept their larger sizes.
http://www.thepaperboy.com/uk/uk-newspaper-guide.cfm

Proposed translations

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13 mins
Selected

the popular press

there are variuos definitions of this, some of them pretty close to or equating it with "the tabloids":

The great age of Britain's popular press is drawing squalidly to its closeLord Northcliffe reinvented the popular press 100 years ago, and long remained the model for the modern British proprietor http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/jul/08/ian-jack...
Peer comment(s):
agree Charles Davis : If the reference is generic (diarios populares), this is just right, but of course it depends entirely on the context in which the Spanish term is used.
28 mins
many thanks Charles :)
agree David Ronder : Yes, good generic option
49 mins
many thanks David!
agree patinba
3 hrs
many thanks patinba!
agree philgoddard : Popular newspaper.
8 hrs
many thanks Phil! And I agree that just because a translation is "literal" doesn't mean it has to be wrong (re Asker's comment)
agree Karen Vincent-Jones (X)
8 hrs
many thanks Karen!
agree Lucy Breen : Yes
1 day 4 hrs
Many thanks Lucy!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "That's great. I think I'll go with Popular. Thanks a lot everyone for your responses. REALLY useful."
6 mins

Mainstream newspaper

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14 mins

red top newspaper

This is commonly used in the UK for The Sun, Daily Mail etc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabloid_journalism#Red_top
Peer comment(s):
agree Carol Gullidge : definitely works for the UK, synonymous with tabloid http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/red+top
2 mins
Thanks, Carol.
neutral David Ronder : but not Mail or Express
12 mins
agree Yvonne Gallagher
2 hrs
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13 mins

Mass-circulation newspaper

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Note added at 8 hrs (2012-12-10 17:50:31 GMT)
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I should make the point that "mass-circulation newspaper" is used as a euphemism for tabloid newspaper. Some members seem to be misunderstanding this point and taking it literally.
Peer comment(s):
agree David Ronder
13 mins
many thanks David! ;-)
neutral Carol Gullidge : unless they're local papers, I think they're ALL "mass circulation"
17 mins
I don't agree. Dailies with a more targeted public would not be called this.
agree Charles Davis : This is probably the best bet if it's referring to one particular newspaper.
29 mins
many thanks Charles! ;-)
disagree philgoddard : Agree with Carol. The New York Times is a mass-circulation newspaper, but it's not a "diario popular".
8 hrs
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