Jul 9, 2013 13:41
10 yrs ago
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French term
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Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, French to English, Italian to English, and 2 more.
compte-poids
French to English
Tech/Engineering
Nuclear Eng/Sci
Metal recovery
Le Titulaire s’engage à assurer la gestion du compte-poids métal ouvert au nom de xxx, et à informer xxx, par écrit, de toutes les modifications de quantités de métal disponible (entrées et sorties).
In the above what is compte-poids? - seems to be some sort of record of how much metal the titulaire recovers (from glass in this case).
TIA for any input
In the above what is compte-poids? - seems to be some sort of record of how much metal the titulaire recovers (from glass in this case).
TIA for any input
Proposed translations
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| 4 -2 | weight accounts |
Salih YILDIRIM
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| 2 +2 | metal account |
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
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References
| Wikipedia |
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
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Proposed translations
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Salih YILDIRIM
United States
United States
United States
Meticulous, scrupulous, curious work!
Native in: Turkish (Variant: Standard-İstanbul ) 
Works in: Turkish to English, English to Turkish, French to Turkish, and 1 more.
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weight accounts
Peer comment(s):
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Kim Metzger
: http://translate.google.com/#en/fr/weight accounts http://french.about.com/od/grammar/a/nouns_3.htm
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philgoddard
: Agree with Kim.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "many thanks!"
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Nikki Scott-Despaigne
Native in English
Psychologist, Court-certified legal
Native in: English 
Works in: French to English
Related KudoZ points
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French term (edited):
compte poids métal
metal account
I think if you drop the hyphen then you find a more fluid reading of "gestion du compte poids métal". I think the métal goes rather with the "poids" than with "compte". If you read it this way, then you might consider "metal account" as appropriate. This means accepting that the EN term places the emphasis on the material, rather on the weight but that the terms match.
Low confidence level nonetheless, but I'm posting the suggestion as I find EN original sources for this one, which is not the case for "weight account".
http://www.ameriabank.am/content.aspx?id=metal accounts&page...
"Metal Accounts
Want to hedge against currency risks by storing your funds in different currencies? Ameriabank offers you metal accounts with paper gold as a perfect alternative.
Everyone knows the true value of gold. Time is gold and gold is timeless.
Metal account is designed to take record of and deal in your paper gold. The only data required for opening the account are the karat and weight of gold.
Metal accounts enable you not only to diversify your savings but also to benefit from a number of advantages:..."
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At a pinch, then "precious metal account" might do it. Again, going against my own suggestion of being wary of EN versions of sites and "weight account", here's an EN version of a Swiss site which uses "precious metal account", another possibility.
https://www.credit-suisse.com/ch/privatkunden/doc/metallkont...
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OK, so when you post on ProZ, you can put your foot in it! My first source here is NOT an EN original, but an Armenian one.
That said, I stand by my suggestion. I'll be back with other sources. Hang on a sec...
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Might this be it?
http://info.goldavenue.com/info_site/in_glos/in_glos_metalac...
Many banks and bullion dealers offer metal account facilities to their customers, who may be substantial traders or small jewellers. The advantage of metal accounts is that gold is not normally delivered, thus occasionally avoiding sales tax. Metal account business in Switzerland increased enormously in the early 1980s when gold deliveries were taxed for a time. Metal account gold is normally ‘unallocated’ so the client is an unsecured creditor.
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About my last source : http://info.goldavenue.com/
"The GoldAvenue Gold Encyclopaedia is maintained by the world's leading precious metals consultancy, Gold Field Mineral Services (GFMS). Their contribution in updating the Encyclopaedia on a monthly, quarterly and annual basis builds and expands upon the work of gold jewelry expert Irena Podleska, and the acknowledged gold expert, Timothy Green, in particular his reference book, "The Gold Companion"."
Is that better? More convincing?
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http://www.webleicester.co.uk/customer/gcmetals/servicesmeta...
Metal Account Management
Precious metals are central to investment portfolios and industrial production.
G. C. Metals Limited can set-up metal accounts on behalf of those customers who do not wish to take delivery of their refined metals, allowing them to sell their reclaimed material at their option. This ensures that our customers are able to take advantage of fluctuations in precious metal prices and sell when prices are higher.
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Hey, I'm on a roll here! A Swiss roll? No.... tout de même...!
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Allocated metal accounts:
http://www.goldline.co.uk/allocatedAccountsPage.page
Low confidence level nonetheless, but I'm posting the suggestion as I find EN original sources for this one, which is not the case for "weight account".
http://www.ameriabank.am/content.aspx?id=metal accounts&page...
"Metal Accounts
Want to hedge against currency risks by storing your funds in different currencies? Ameriabank offers you metal accounts with paper gold as a perfect alternative.
Everyone knows the true value of gold. Time is gold and gold is timeless.
Metal account is designed to take record of and deal in your paper gold. The only data required for opening the account are the karat and weight of gold.
Metal accounts enable you not only to diversify your savings but also to benefit from a number of advantages:..."
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Note added at 1 hr (2013-07-09 15:00:39 GMT)
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At a pinch, then "precious metal account" might do it. Again, going against my own suggestion of being wary of EN versions of sites and "weight account", here's an EN version of a Swiss site which uses "precious metal account", another possibility.
https://www.credit-suisse.com/ch/privatkunden/doc/metallkont...
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Note added at 1 hr (2013-07-09 15:03:03 GMT)
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OK, so when you post on ProZ, you can put your foot in it! My first source here is NOT an EN original, but an Armenian one.
That said, I stand by my suggestion. I'll be back with other sources. Hang on a sec...
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Note added at 1 hr (2013-07-09 15:04:19 GMT)
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Might this be it?
http://info.goldavenue.com/info_site/in_glos/in_glos_metalac...
Many banks and bullion dealers offer metal account facilities to their customers, who may be substantial traders or small jewellers. The advantage of metal accounts is that gold is not normally delivered, thus occasionally avoiding sales tax. Metal account business in Switzerland increased enormously in the early 1980s when gold deliveries were taxed for a time. Metal account gold is normally ‘unallocated’ so the client is an unsecured creditor.
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Note added at 1 hr (2013-07-09 15:05:51 GMT)
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About my last source : http://info.goldavenue.com/
"The GoldAvenue Gold Encyclopaedia is maintained by the world's leading precious metals consultancy, Gold Field Mineral Services (GFMS). Their contribution in updating the Encyclopaedia on a monthly, quarterly and annual basis builds and expands upon the work of gold jewelry expert Irena Podleska, and the acknowledged gold expert, Timothy Green, in particular his reference book, "The Gold Companion"."
Is that better? More convincing?
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http://www.webleicester.co.uk/customer/gcmetals/servicesmeta...
Metal Account Management
Precious metals are central to investment portfolios and industrial production.
G. C. Metals Limited can set-up metal accounts on behalf of those customers who do not wish to take delivery of their refined metals, allowing them to sell their reclaimed material at their option. This ensures that our customers are able to take advantage of fluctuations in precious metal prices and sell when prices are higher.
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Note added at 1 hr (2013-07-09 15:07:10 GMT)
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Hey, I'm on a roll here! A Swiss roll? No.... tout de même...!
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Note added at 1 hr (2013-07-09 15:10:57 GMT)
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Allocated metal accounts:
http://www.goldline.co.uk/allocatedAccountsPage.page
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
philgoddard
: Your references aren't really relevant, as they relate to investment in precious metals. But I think this is still an acceptable answer; "weight account" is another, and at least you understand the difference between singular and plural in French :-
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GILLES MEUNIER
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Reference comments
57 mins
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
Native in English
Psychologist, Court-certified legal
Native in: English
Works in: French to English
Related KudoZ points
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4
Reference:
Wikipedia
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gpmi
Métaux Précieux[modifier]
Le suivi du Compte Poids permet l'utilisation de GPMI pour la gestion de métaux précieux (fabrication de bijoux). Les matières déclarées comme "précieuses" disposent d'un compte poids (comptabilité du poids de matière) associé aux fournisseurs et clients (échanges de matières prêtées), ainsi que d'un lien avec le cours du métal correspondant, et possibilité de réajuster les prix en fonction du cours.
compte poids : comptabilité du poids de matière
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http://bofip.impots.gouv.fr/bofip/2069-PGP.html
3. Utilisation des comptes-poids
160
Les fondeurs affineurs peuvent utiliser la technique des comptes-poids.
Dans cette situation, le fondeur-affineur est dépositaire de l'or appartenant à chacun de ses clients concernés et les différents mouvements affectant ce dépôt (approvisionnement, prélèvement pour transformation) sont comptabilisés sur le compte-poids du client à la manière d'un compte courant, avec cette particularité qu'ils sont retracés en masse et non en valeur.
170
Dans ce cadre, le fondeur-affineur effectue à la demande et pour le compte de son client la transformation de l'or en dépôt dont il n'est pas propriétaire et facture au client cette opération de travail à façon.
180
Cette technique permet d'éviter l'influence de la variation du cours de l'or sur les masses traitées.
En pratique, l'approvisionnement des comptes-poids, c'est-à-dire l'achat par le client final de l'or que ce dernier mettra en dépôt chez le fondeur affineur est effectué par le fondeur-affineur qui intervient aux lieu et place du client sur le marché boursier ou auprès de grossistes. L'utilisation de la technique des comptes-poids est bien entendu subordonnée à la condition que le dépositaire du compte agisse, dans cette situation, au nom et pour le compte du client titulaire de ce compte.
NB : compte-matière (à 150)
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"Metal wieght accounts"?
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May be of help :
http://www.icbc.com.cn/ICBC/E-banking/PersonalEbankingServic...
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Or even "metal account" which scraps the term "weight".
http://fr.termwiki.com/EN:metal_account
metal account
Precious metal account managed by a bank giving the accountholder a claim to a specified quantity of precious metal or a specified number of precious metal coins but not yet conferring title to the assets at the time they are credited.
Métaux Précieux[modifier]
Le suivi du Compte Poids permet l'utilisation de GPMI pour la gestion de métaux précieux (fabrication de bijoux). Les matières déclarées comme "précieuses" disposent d'un compte poids (comptabilité du poids de matière) associé aux fournisseurs et clients (échanges de matières prêtées), ainsi que d'un lien avec le cours du métal correspondant, et possibilité de réajuster les prix en fonction du cours.
compte poids : comptabilité du poids de matière
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http://bofip.impots.gouv.fr/bofip/2069-PGP.html
3. Utilisation des comptes-poids
160
Les fondeurs affineurs peuvent utiliser la technique des comptes-poids.
Dans cette situation, le fondeur-affineur est dépositaire de l'or appartenant à chacun de ses clients concernés et les différents mouvements affectant ce dépôt (approvisionnement, prélèvement pour transformation) sont comptabilisés sur le compte-poids du client à la manière d'un compte courant, avec cette particularité qu'ils sont retracés en masse et non en valeur.
170
Dans ce cadre, le fondeur-affineur effectue à la demande et pour le compte de son client la transformation de l'or en dépôt dont il n'est pas propriétaire et facture au client cette opération de travail à façon.
180
Cette technique permet d'éviter l'influence de la variation du cours de l'or sur les masses traitées.
En pratique, l'approvisionnement des comptes-poids, c'est-à-dire l'achat par le client final de l'or que ce dernier mettra en dépôt chez le fondeur affineur est effectué par le fondeur-affineur qui intervient aux lieu et place du client sur le marché boursier ou auprès de grossistes. L'utilisation de la technique des comptes-poids est bien entendu subordonnée à la condition que le dépositaire du compte agisse, dans cette situation, au nom et pour le compte du client titulaire de ce compte.
NB : compte-matière (à 150)
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Note added at 1 hr (2013-07-09 14:46:06 GMT)
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"Metal wieght accounts"?
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Note added at 1 hr (2013-07-09 14:48:48 GMT)
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May be of help :
http://www.icbc.com.cn/ICBC/E-banking/PersonalEbankingServic...
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Note added at 1 hr (2013-07-09 14:50:26 GMT)
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Or even "metal account" which scraps the term "weight".
http://fr.termwiki.com/EN:metal_account
metal account
Precious metal account managed by a bank giving the accountholder a claim to a specified quantity of precious metal or a specified number of precious metal coins but not yet conferring title to the assets at the time they are credited.
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