Dec 31, 2013 17:04
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French term

Dans les fantaisies premières?

French to English Social Sciences Esoteric practices hermetic philosophy
Dans les fantaisies premieres, il semble devenir une sorte de jardin magique dans lequel l'individu peut satisfaire ses souhaits les meilleurs, recevoir le soutien du respect social, et soit plein de fierte (pride) alors qu'il etale sa propre fertilite au monde par la procreation d'un nouvel etre vivant.
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Dec 31, 2013 23:06: Yolanda Broad changed "Term asked" from "Dans les fantaisies premieres?" to "Dans les fantaisies premières?"

Discussion

patrickfor Dec 31, 2013:
this looks like a bit "weird" as far as french language is concerned...
- "fantaisies premières" looks like a bad translation from the english "fantasy"
- As Nikki just wrote what is this "il" ?
-"ses souhaits les meilleurs", "le soutien du respect social" all this doesn't sound french either
Can we know where this extract comes from?
Amazingly the "google" translation(?) in english of the beginning seems to look better than the french it comes from...
"First in fantasies, it seems to become a kind of magical garden where the individual can satisfy his best wishes"
Nikki Scott-Despaigne Dec 31, 2013:
To whom is the "il" referring?

Proposed translations

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French term (edited): Dans les fantaisies premieres?

initial visions

I assume this person is initially experiencing some sort of hallucinatory vision accompanied by a feeling of physical "high". Then something else follows, whatever that is.

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primal or primary fantasies

Agree that we need to know more about the context and what the "il" is, but it reads to me like a reference to something like the "primal" or "primary" fantasies in psychoanalysis - fantasies that are structural or anthropological rather than related to the individual.

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Note added at 9 hrs (2014-01-01 02:36:18 GMT)
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Patrick is right that in French, this would not normally be "fantaisie" but rather "fantasme".
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In the first visualizations

This seems to be referring to an esoteric hermetic meditation practice, involving visualization of certain places/states - in this case, a magic garden-like scenario.
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