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Dec 4, 2014 18:45
9 yrs ago
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French term
à surface évolutive
French to English
Bus/Financial
Business/Commerce (general)
Furniture sector
As used in the two examples below.
"Pour la fin de l’année 2014, l’[name of organistion] table sur une chute d’activité en valeur du marché du meuble de l’ordre de 2% à 3% à surface évolutive et en euros courants."
"Le meuble sur la pente ascendante mais à surface évolutive et avec la cuisine..."
"Pour la fin de l’année 2014, l’[name of organistion] table sur une chute d’activité en valeur du marché du meuble de l’ordre de 2% à 3% à surface évolutive et en euros courants."
"Le meuble sur la pente ascendante mais à surface évolutive et avec la cuisine..."
Proposed translations
(English)
2 +1 | sales volumes | AllegroTrans |
4 -1 | based on smoothing its sales | Francois Boye |
3 -1 | not corrected/reduced to like-for-like figures | Daryo |
Proposed translations
+1
8 mins
sales volumes
More or less a guess simply based on context
The expression doesn't seem to be widely used, but I may be wrong
The expression doesn't seem to be widely used, but I may be wrong
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
Tony M
: I think this is more about the floor area devoted to furniture sales; I've seen a lot of stuff quoting figures in terms of 'sales per unit floor area'
15 mins
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agree |
Chakib Roula
: A credible option.
19 mins
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disagree |
Duncan Moncrieff
: This is to do with the limits/boundaries of the activity considered, compare with constant perimeter.
14 hrs
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neutral |
Daryo
: you need to be more precise
1 day 13 hrs
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agree |
Sasa Kalcik
8 days
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-1
1 hr
based on smoothing its sales
Smoothing means that one computes the annual growth rates by considering each month an aggregate of furniture sales in the last x months, with x being an integer.
I was trained in France as a quantitative economist. I don't remember having heard a French economist using the "a surface evolutive" concept. The specialists of times series analysis use the concept of smoothing or moving average.
I was trained in France as a quantitative economist. I don't remember having heard a French economist using the "a surface evolutive" concept. The specialists of times series analysis use the concept of smoothing or moving average.
Peer comment(s):
disagree |
Daryo
: the concept of smoothing or moving average does exist, but It's not making its presence known in this ST// what text are you taking about? not this ST for sure; anyway "lissage de la courbe" and "à surface évolutive" are totally different concepts
1 day 12 hrs
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According to the text I read, each month, sales of the last five months are aggregated and the growth rate is computed on this new basis. Besides, the text shows that the growth rate is lower when one considers smoothed sales data
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-1
1 day 15 hrs
not corrected/reduced to like-for-like figures
"à surface évolutive": the opposed of "à périmètre constant"
"at constant perimeter" is used, but the opposite seems to be simply the assumed default, as there is no specific term.
I know it's a "negative definition", but I can't find any direct translation.
Like translating "shallow" into French, only way round is to say "not deep" - peu profond.
"at constant perimeter" is used, but the opposite seems to be simply the assumed default, as there is no specific term.
I know it's a "negative definition", but I can't find any direct translation.
Like translating "shallow" into French, only way round is to say "not deep" - peu profond.
Discussion
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=> en valeur du marché du meuble : market estimated in term of monetary value of goods sold, as opposed to estimates in terms of quantities
=> à surface évolutive et en euros courants: the only correction made in order to make figures comparable from one year to the next was to adjust for inflation (en euros courants) - there was no adjustments made to take into account any acquisition or disposal of retail units (à surface évolutive, i.e. without trying to establish any "périmètre constant")
if there is any "smoothing its sales" in all this, it's hiding pretty well...
It is indeed essentially the opposite of like-for-like (the "constant perimeter" although that smacks of translationese to me!)
And ditto no adjustment made for inflation (and potentially perhaps exchange rates).
• 2013 net sales to exclude companies consolidated for the first time during the year, and 2012
net sales to exclude companies divested in 2013;
• 2013 and 2012 nets sales based on 2012 exchange rates." (http://www.lagardere.com/fichiers/fckeditor/File/Relations_i...
So "à surface évolutive" means "integrating market evolutions" (the appearance of new competitors, the disappearance/bankruptcy of others, opening/closure of stores, etc). "En euros courants" means that the effect of inflation hasn't been removed - compare real vs nominal value:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_versus_nominal_value_(econ... or in French http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valeur_nominale_et_valeur_réell...
and:
http://www.lesechos.fr/finance-marches/vernimmen/definition_...
http://www.lesechos.fr/finance-marches/vernimmen/definition_...
"Constant perimeter definition used is 2002 sales minus contribution of 2002 acquisitions minus contribution to 2002 sales of companies acquired in 2001" (http://www.altran.com/uploads/tx_lpaltran/Altran_20030220_PR...
"Solvay’s relative environmental indicators are performance indicators at constant perimeter; their values are expressed as a percentage of their efficiency in the reference year 2012. As such they can be compared directly with the reduction targets the Group has set in its new Environmental Plan. For more details on the Sustainability targets for 2020, the reader is referred to the page 3.
To obtain the relative environmental indicators, the absolute environmental indicators are corrected for changes in the Group’s perimeter (incoming and outgoing sites) and normalized by the production volumes in order to correct for changes in economic activity. (http://www.solvay.com/en/binaries/2013-Sustainable-Developpe...
i.e.:
" L’an dernier, l’enseigne Class’croûte a réalisé une bonne année, avec un chiffre d’affaires de 55,2 millions d'euros HT, en progression de + 10% à surface évolutive et de +3,3% à périmètre constant. Nous étions partis sur un trend de 5% mais les trois derniers mois de 2010 nous ont pénalisés.
Cette tendance positive semble encore être meilleure sur les deux premiers mois de l’année 2011 car notre réseau a vu son activité progresser de +7% à périmètre constant et +15% à surface évolutive. Le business est véritablement reparti à la hausse. L’activité de livraison, qui reste notre cœur de métier, est également de nouveau bien orientée." (http://www.observatoiredelafranchise.fr/interviews-classcrou...
"Entre janvier et juin 2014, les ventes de meubles dans l’hexagone ont donc baissé de 2,5 % à surface évolutive et euros courants (aux alentours de – 4,5 ou – 5 % à surface constante)" (http://courrierdumeuble.fr/marche-du-meuble-resultats-du-1er...
Also: http://www.mobicite.com/content/download/17875/179041/file/I...
This is rather common for comparison among months for car sales for example: they take into account the number of opening days of the dealer halls:
http://www.ccfa.fr/Le-marche-des-voitures-neuves-a,125139
http://www.mobicite.com/Developpement/Economie/Le-meuble-sur...
chute d’activité en valeur du marché du meuble de l’ordre de 2% à 3% à surface évolutive et en euros courants
clearly indicates a consolidation, natives will probably find a better wording, but I understand "including mergers and acquisitions"