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La bave du crapaud n'atteint pas la blanche colombe
TECHNOLOGIE PHYSIQUE
May 23, 2016 14:01
7 yrs ago
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French term

Panthéon

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I know what the Roman Pantheon temple and Parisian Panthéon mausoleum are and what they symbolise, but I'm looking for a term with an equivalent register that could be understood by any well-educated non-French speaker the world over, and my mind has drawn a blank.

It doesn't necessarily have to reference a mausoleum; the idea is that you'll be one of the best players, and "Top 40" doesn't quite do it here ;-)

A classical (Greek /Roman, even Egyptian) reference would be preferable but not mandatory.

Here's the word in context:
Auras-tu raison de la procrastination et apparaitras-tu au Panthéon de XXXX ?
Proposed translations (English)
3 +7 Pantheon
3 +2 Hall of fame
5 Hall of Heros
3 Olympus

Discussion

Catharine Cellier-Smart (asker) May 24, 2016:
@Charles Following comments here I did a spot test of my siblings. My university-educated brother (British, but who lives in the US) didn't know the term, but my non-uni educated sister (who doesn't read The Sun!) did know it. Still waiting to hear back from my uni-educated sister.
Charles Davis May 24, 2016:
@Catharine That's what I thought!
Catharine Cellier-Smart (asker) May 24, 2016:
@Delina But to my mind Colossus refers to just one statue, rather than a gathering of the Great.
Catharine Cellier-Smart (asker) May 24, 2016:
@Charles Well if it's in The Sun... !
Delina Alwanger May 24, 2016:
Colossus might work. It refers to a superhero.
Charles Davis May 23, 2016:
There's something in that But "pantheon" is really pretty common. If you google "the pantheon of great", you get all sorts: Marilyn Monroe, Elvis Presley... A telling example, perhaps, is this, in The Sun, no less:

"WITH his performance against Arsenal in the Nou Camp on Tuesday, Lionel Messi must surely be on the verge of joining the pantheon of great footballers"
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/2924043/Is-Lio...
Charlie Bavington May 23, 2016:
I could be wrong too... ... but my feeling is that an educated French person will probably have more knowledge of what Oxbridge calls Classics than a UK educated equivalent. On the other hand, the word "pantheon" does appear, e.g. in broadsheet news, and might well be considered part of educated vocabulary, if that doesn't sound elitist. But even well-educated younger Brits are quite often ignorant of (to me) quite well-known legends, e.g. Icarus, let alone the more obscure (to me) stuff I very occasionally see references to in translation.
Catharine Cellier-Smart (asker) May 23, 2016:
Theme There's a repeated references to Greek and Roman mythology in this game.
To my mind 'pantheon' is unknown to non-French, but I'm obviously wrong.
Charlie Bavington May 23, 2016:
Top faffty I'll get my coat....
philgoddard May 23, 2016:
That's OK! We don't have the full context, but I wonder if there is a Greek theme (after all, that's where "procrastination" comes from). In that case it should definitely be pantheon.
Sheri P May 23, 2016:
Sorry, Phil, I just saw your discussion posts (after posting a similar answer).
philgoddard May 23, 2016:
"A group of notable or illustrious persons or things".
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pantheon
philgoddard May 23, 2016:
If readers are well educated and you want a classical reference (you haven't said why - is this game historically themed?), what's wrong with pantheon?

Proposed translations

+7
52 mins
Selected

Pantheon

I don't see a problem with using "pantheon" in English, especially if, as you say, your target audience is well educated.

(lowercase) the place of the heroes or idols of any group, individual, movement, party, etc., or the heroes or idols themselves:
to earn a place in the pantheon of American literature.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/pantheon



Peer comment(s):
agree katsy : Yes! I had shut my mind to it, as Catharine said she wanted something else, but I do agree that it's perfectly comprehensible :-)
15 mins
Thank you, katsy
agree philgoddard : Unless there is some good reason not to use this, it seems the obvious choice based on what Catharine has said.
57 mins
Thank you, Phil
agree Charles Davis : I think so too.
2 hrs
Thanks, Charles :-)
agree Yolanda Broad
7 hrs
Thank you, Yolanda
agree Yvonne Gallagher
8 hrs
Thanks, Gallagy
agree Michele Fauble
15 hrs
Thank you, Michele
agree Nikki Scott-Despaigne
2 days 22 hrs
Thanks!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
+2
12 mins

Hall of fame

One possibility...
Peer comment(s):
agree Marina Denogent
11 mins
agree katsy : I thought of that too. Is the register right for Catharine? It will certainly be understood by everyone
22 mins
I have my doubts about the register too which is why I only gave it a 3 confidence level.
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42 mins

Olympus

like it?
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18 hrs

Hall of Heros

Pantheon alone is good too, but this is a term used in quite a few video games to my knowledge.
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