Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

bridage

English translation:

speed curtailment/reduction

Added to glossary by B D Finch
Feb 25, 2017 17:37
7 yrs ago
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French term

bridage

French to English Tech/Engineering Energy / Power Generation wind power
Les émergences sont données en prenant en compte le mode de bridage adopté sur ce parc, établi selon deux grands secteurs de vent.
Ce plan de bridage a été retranscrit avec des vitesses de vent standardisées à 10 mètres de hauteur.

and also

Fonctionnement normal: Arrêt de l’éolienne/Mode bridé

Note: I've seen the existing entries (flanging system), but references and explanations are not necessarily applicable in my case (not sure we are talking about flanged pipes). If this is the case indeed, my apologies for the extra question!
Change log

Mar 3, 2017 17:01: B D Finch Created KOG entry

Discussion

chris collister Feb 28, 2017:
Rotational speed in modern wind turbines is kept constant as far as possible by continuously varying the load on the generator in response to changes in wind speed. A firm grid is essential for this. The blade profiles are designed to operate over a wide range of angles of attack, though aerodynamic stall can be used to good effect in reducing the load on any brake intended to protect against overspeed. Experience has shown that the most reliable turbines are those with multiple independent braking systems, including leading-edge spoilers and rotating tips. By far the most annoying sound is generated by a poorly designed gearbox, though another source of annoyance is flickering terrestrial TV reception.
Jennifer Levey Feb 26, 2017:
This whole question of synchronisation is OT as far as Asker’s ST is concerned.

The noise is generated by the impact of the wind on the blades, and the annoyance caused by the noise (volume, mainly, but probably also the acoustic frequency (pitch)) depends on the relative velocity of the wind and the blade, and the shape of the (leading edge of the) blades. It’s like when you blow into a reed instrument (a clarinet, for example); the harder you blow (greater air-speed/force of impact) the louder the sound generated by the reed; and if you blow hard enough, the reed may start emitting raucous harmonics.

As explained in my answer, the answer to the noise problem is to de-optimise the blade pitch (feathering) to a degree just sufficient to reduce the noise to environmentally acceptable levels. There will probably be a reduction is rotational velocity, but that is taken care of elsewhere in the system (in the rectifiers/inverters).
Jennifer Levey Feb 26, 2017:
@Terry Richards & BD Finch There's no requirement for the turbine blades to turn synchronously. The AC from each generator is usually converted to DC, the O/P from all the generators in service is combined, and the total is converted back to AC at grid frequency.
machinedesign.com/energy/green-technology-inside-advanced-wind-turbine

Variable-speed turbines can also be used, as mentioned here:
Abstract: This paper presents a new control system for grid synchronisation of a doubly fed induction generator used in variable speed wind turbines.
ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/1182933
Terry Richards Feb 26, 2017:
@ B D Finch That would probably be because they are not turning. The blades are completely feathered (at least, on the first few at the front, I can't see the rest).
B D Finch Feb 26, 2017:
@Terry Richards See this rather nice picture that shows a line of wind turbines turning out of synch. http://www.hvwooding.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Siemens-6MW-Wi... (https://goo.gl/duSU1k )

Proposed translations

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speed reduction

Goursau's Dictionnaire des termes techniques gives "bridage de vitesse" as "speed limitation", and that fits this context.

https://www.actu-environnement.com/ae/news/bruit-parc-eolien...
"Les nuisances sonores sont probablement l'un des impacts des parcs éoliens les plus critiqués par les riverains. Si la technologie progresse, le bridage, voire l'arrêt, des machines reste parfois la seule solution pour respecter la réglementation"

http://www.eolien-biodiversite.com/comment-les-eviter/eviter... (https://goo.gl/GDhoKM)
"Régulation basique pour les chauves-souris (bridage au lever et au coucher du jour soit 4h par nuit d’avril à fin octobre), arrêts programmés"

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Note added at 44 mins (2017-02-25 18:21:49 GMT)
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I meant to give speed limitation/reduction as the suggested translation.

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Note added at 5 days (2017-03-03 17:01:19 GMT) Post-grading
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I was surprised at the client's suggestion of "curtailment", but checked and found that it is commonly used in this context.
Note from asker:
Thank you!
Peer comment(s):

agree Chakib Roula
29 mins
Merci Chakib
agree Jennifer Levey : limitation, not reduction
1 hr
Thanks Robin
agree Tony M : Yes, limitation. 'method employed to limit speed', etc.
2 hrs
Thanks Tony
agree Nikki Scott-Despaigne : The verb "brider" indicates the application of a type of limit or restriction.
21 hrs
Thanks Nikki
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you for the speedy and well documented answer. It helped a lot! I ended up using curtailment (client's suggestion)."
4 hrs

feathering

bridage refers in general terms to limiting the speed of something, as BD Finch has suggested.

However, in wind-turbine technology, it refers, by extension, to the method used to limit the speed, in situations such as that described in the ST.

This method is called "feathering" (mise en drapeau in the French aeronautic industry).

feathering involves "de-optimising" the pitch of the blades, so that they will not naturally turn at as high a speed as they would when set for full speed/operating efficiency/power-output.

It’s done this way because other methods would require mechanical or electrodynamic braking systems which wear out and/or generate un-wanted heat. The better solution is to avoid going over-speed from the outset by taking less energy from the wind.
Note from asker:
Thank you, Robin!
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16 hrs

power reduction/limiting

In this case, it is not a question of reducing or limiting the speed as all windmills turn at the same speed (which determines the frequency of the power produced - 50Hz in Europe).

By altering the blade configuration, you can alter the amount of power produced and, as a by-product, the amount of noise generated. But, in ALL cases, the windmill will continue to turn at the same speed.

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Note added at 1 day1 hr (2017-02-26 19:08:51 GMT)
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Strictly speaking, different models of windmill can turn at different speeds but all of the same model turn at the same speed. As B D Finch points out, there is a gearbox that converts the relatively low speed of the blades to the higher speed required by the generator. However, this gearbox has a fixed ratio and the generator MUST turn at a fixed speed of 3000 (50 Hz x 60 seconds) RPM. This implies that the blade speed must be fixed as well. It does not necessarily have to be the same for two different windmills as they could have different gearbox ratios but, whatever it is, it has to be fixed.

You can verify this by looking at a group of windmills and noting that a blade reaches the highest point (i.e. straight up) at the same time on all of them even though they can be in different wind conditions.


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Well, apparently there *are* variable-speed wind turbines but they are not very common. And they still have fixed-ratio gearboxes! Some of them are used for stand-alone systems where the frequency produced is (relatively) unimportant. The others have to convert their variable-frequency output to DC and back to AC at the correct frequency. This is an inefficient process and the losses incurred generally overwhelm the increased efficiency of the variable speed turbine. It also introduces nasty harmonics into the power grid.

I would strongly doubt that anybody here has ever seen one in operation.

For the purposes of this question, I maintain that wind turbines are fixed-speed.
Note from asker:
Thank you, Terry!
Peer comment(s):

disagree B D Finch : No, they don't all turn at the same speed, the gearbox converts the variable speed of the blades to the, much higher, speed required by the generator.//https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_turbine_design
8 hrs
Could you find me a reference to this infinitely variable ratio gearbox?
disagree Jennifer Levey : Some of what you say is valid. Some is not. The purpose of varying the blade pitch (feathering) is to reduce the energy taken from the wind (and that is what reduces the noise) - not to vary the power delivered by the generator.
10 hrs
That's what I said! power is energy over time (Watts = Joules / second). You can reduce the power output but the speed stays the same.
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Reference comments

22 hrs
Reference:

Ordinary dictionary

It is often helpful to refer to an ordinary dictionary to check if an ordinary technical meaning can apply.

http://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais/brider/11139

"Technique
[...]
Régler un appareil (moteur, soupapes, etc.) de façon à l'empêcher d'atteindre le maximum de ses possibilités."
Note from asker:
Thank you, Nikki!
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree Jennifer Levey
4 hrs
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