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Mar 10, 2017 11:31
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Dutch term
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geloosd
Dutch to English
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Urine sample
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urinestaal (***geloosd***, midstream)
No more context I am afraid. Wondering if it is something different to midstream or just another way of saying it?
urinestaal (***geloosd***, midstream)
No more context I am afraid. Wondering if it is something different to midstream or just another way of saying it?
Proposed translations
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| 3 +3 | voided |
Kitty Brussaard
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Mar 15, 2017 11:33: Kitty Brussaard Created KOG entry
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Kitty Brussaard
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http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/817506_3
http://brooksidepress.org/basic_patient_care/lessons/lesson-...
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Note added at 5 days (2017-03-15 11:32:46 GMT) Post-grading
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In other words, urinestaal (geloosd, midstream) refers to a so-called midstream voided urine sample.
Voided midstream urine cultures frequently contained bacteria not found in paired urethral catheter specimens, questioning the value of midstream voided urine for diagnosis of acute bladder infection, investigators found.
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Midstream voided urine culture has long represented a component of a standard workup for patients with suspected acute cystitis, or bladder infection. However, laboratory studies have shown that interpretation of the culture results can be complicated by the potential for contamination of the voided urine specimen by periurethral organisms, which cannot be distinguished from organisms originating in the bladder, the authors noted in their introduction.
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For each study participant, investigators obtained a midstream voided urine sample and a sample obtained by urethral catheter.
http://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/generalinfecti...
In this cross-sectional study, 113 pregnant women collected three different midstream urine samples consecutively: morning (first void); midstream (void without further instructions); and clean-catch sample (void after cleaning).
https://www.uptodate.com/contents/sampling-and-evaluation-of...
http://brooksidepress.org/basic_patient_care/lessons/lesson-...
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Note added at 5 days (2017-03-15 11:32:46 GMT) Post-grading
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In other words, urinestaal (geloosd, midstream) refers to a so-called midstream voided urine sample.
Voided midstream urine cultures frequently contained bacteria not found in paired urethral catheter specimens, questioning the value of midstream voided urine for diagnosis of acute bladder infection, investigators found.
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Midstream voided urine culture has long represented a component of a standard workup for patients with suspected acute cystitis, or bladder infection. However, laboratory studies have shown that interpretation of the culture results can be complicated by the potential for contamination of the voided urine specimen by periurethral organisms, which cannot be distinguished from organisms originating in the bladder, the authors noted in their introduction.
(...)
For each study participant, investigators obtained a midstream voided urine sample and a sample obtained by urethral catheter.
http://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/generalinfecti...
In this cross-sectional study, 113 pregnant women collected three different midstream urine samples consecutively: morning (first void); midstream (void without further instructions); and clean-catch sample (void after cleaning).
https://www.uptodate.com/contents/sampling-and-evaluation-of...
Note from asker:
| Thanks Kitty - must be that |
Peer comment(s):
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writeaway
: lots of valid www hits for voided urine sample. fwiw. your first ref is only for those signed up. so nothing is visible to the rest of us
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Thanks, writeaway. As for my first ref, I'm not signed up either so I'm not sure why the link doesn't work for you (or others). Anyway, as you say, there are lots of other relevant hits (f.i. try searching for "voided", "urine" and "midstream").
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Tina Vonhof (X)
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Dank je wel, Tina. Goed weekend alvast!
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Barend van Zadelhoff
: To me, 'geloosd' only makes sense if it means 'wijze van lozing'. And in this case I would turn things around: urine sample (collected midstream) I mean, it's obvious urine is voided... / It's Flemish, btw. // Yes, clever find.
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Thanks, Barend. Have a look at 'voided midstream' and 'midstream-voided' versus 'collected midstream' and 'midstream-collected'. / And see also my comment in the D-box. It's not that obvious that urine is always voided :-). // Thanks!
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Comment: "Thanks a million Kitty"
Discussion
Thanks for having had a look at the logic behind 'geloosd'.
Clever find.
In this case 'geloosd' and 'midstream' should be seen as two separate qualities. And I now see, it can be seen this way.
- it was voided (rather than collected otherwise), AND
- it was (voided,) midstream (urine)
urine sample (voided sample, midstream-voided)
Teamwork. :-)
If it was collected otherwise, how could/why should it be 'midstream'?
See f.i. https://tinyurl.com/jlxf2pt and https://tinyurl.com/zvre9ln.
Or:
These conclusions have been shown to be equally applicable whether specimens are collected by clean mid-stream voiding, by catheterization, or by suprapubic puncture of the bladder.
http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/329836
Also for these reasons, I think it's important to stay close to the source term 'geloosd' here rather than translating it as 'collected'.
Anyway, it was not clear to me.
I just look at: urinestaal (geloosd, midstream)
What's the logic behind it?
This is not clear from your answer.
Then it would become, it seems to me:
urine sample (midstream-voided)
urine sample (collected midstream)