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Spanish term or phrase:
libranza de socorro
English translation:
advance payment
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libranza de socorro
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Medieval promissory notes
The text is about building and repair work done to The Alhambra in the 14th-17th centuries. This section is referring to payments made to the master builders and journeymen
Normalmente los pagos se hacían en tres o cuatro libranzas.
Las dos o tres primeras libranzas eran las de socorro, librándose la primera libranza de socorro con la tercera parte del total cuando hubieran dado las fianzas establecidas en la escritura, a fin de que pudieran comprar los materiales; la segunda libranza, y en su caso la tercera libranza, con otro tercio de la cantidad total, cuando hubieran hecho la entrega de parte de los materiales en las obras de la Alhambra, al tenedor de materiales de las obras; y una libranza final cuando hubieran sido entregados todos los materiales consignados en la escritura.
Google has nothing for this term. If I can translate "libranza" as "promissory note", would "emergency promissory note" be appropriate here?
Normalmente los pagos se hacían en tres o cuatro libranzas.
Las dos o tres primeras libranzas eran las de socorro, librándose la primera libranza de socorro con la tercera parte del total cuando hubieran dado las fianzas establecidas en la escritura, a fin de que pudieran comprar los materiales; la segunda libranza, y en su caso la tercera libranza, con otro tercio de la cantidad total, cuando hubieran hecho la entrega de parte de los materiales en las obras de la Alhambra, al tenedor de materiales de las obras; y una libranza final cuando hubieran sido entregados todos los materiales consignados en la escritura.
Google has nothing for this term. If I can translate "libranza" as "promissory note", would "emergency promissory note" be appropriate here?
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| 3 +2 | advance payment |
patinba
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| 3 | provisional payments |
neilmac
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| 3 | supply instalment |
Stuart and Aida Nelson
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| 3 | provisional instalments |
Francois Boye
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advance payment
socorro in military terms roughy equates to materiel or supplies.
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4. m. Provisión de municiones de boca o de guerra que se lleva a un cuerpo de tropa o a una plaza que la necesita.
How about:
"the first two or three payments were advances for supplies, the first advance being released when..., and the second and/or third advance when ...
As Neil suggests, they are payments, "promissory notes" really does not sit well in the context.
DRAE
4. m. Provisión de municiones de boca o de guerra que se lleva a un cuerpo de tropa o a una plaza que la necesita.
How about:
"the first two or three payments were advances for supplies, the first advance being released when..., and the second and/or third advance when ...
As Neil suggests, they are payments, "promissory notes" really does not sit well in the context.
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neilmac
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bigedsenior
: nowadays, the contractor has to be bonded for advance payments. At a personal level, they are called up-front payments.
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provisional payments
Glad to see you've relaxed your criteria, so I'm able to post :)
The only thing that occurs to me is "provisional" payments, which seems to fit the description, but without expressing any notions of the charitable nature of the payouts that might be inherent to the "socorro" part.
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con la entrega y almacenamiento de suministros de socorro para los ...... appropriate compensation and provisional payment to disaster affected people
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Obviously "the advance" bit goes without saying.
The only thing that occurs to me is "provisional" payments, which seems to fit the description, but without expressing any notions of the charitable nature of the payouts that might be inherent to the "socorro" part.
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by DP Martínez Barreto
con la entrega y almacenamiento de suministros de socorro para los ...... appropriate compensation and provisional payment to disaster affected people
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Obviously "the advance" bit goes without saying.
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supply instalment
I think libranza means instalment in this context:
La libranza es un mecanismo de recaudo de cartera en donde el deudor autoriza a su entidad empleadora a descontar de su nomina mensual o quincenal una suma determinada para aplicar a la cancelación de sus obligaciones.
http://www.escolme.edu.co/almacenamiento/oei/tecnicos/doc_co...
La libranza es un préstamo que, bien manejado, es atractivo para los empleados, bancos y otros establecimientos.
http://www.finanzaspersonales.co/credito/multimedia/libranza...
Instalment
A sum of money due as one of several equal payments for something, spread over an agreed period of time.
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/instalment
I agree with Patinba with the translation of supplies
How about:
Payments were normally made in three or four instalments.
The first two or three instalments were for supplies, the first supply instalment being paid with the third part of the total when the deposits stated in the deed had been given in order to buy the materials, the second and third instalment being paid [...]
La libranza es un mecanismo de recaudo de cartera en donde el deudor autoriza a su entidad empleadora a descontar de su nomina mensual o quincenal una suma determinada para aplicar a la cancelación de sus obligaciones.
http://www.escolme.edu.co/almacenamiento/oei/tecnicos/doc_co...
La libranza es un préstamo que, bien manejado, es atractivo para los empleados, bancos y otros establecimientos.
http://www.finanzaspersonales.co/credito/multimedia/libranza...
Instalment
A sum of money due as one of several equal payments for something, spread over an agreed period of time.
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/instalment
I agree with Patinba with the translation of supplies
How about:
Payments were normally made in three or four instalments.
The first two or three instalments were for supplies, the first supply instalment being paid with the third part of the total when the deposits stated in the deed had been given in order to buy the materials, the second and third instalment being paid [...]
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provisional instalments
provisional instalment until full repayment
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Erratum: INSTALMENT instead of instalmentS
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Erratum: INSTALMENT instead of instalmentS
Discussion
1. f. Com. Orden de pago que se da, ordinariamente por carta, contra alguien que tiene fondos a disposición de quien la expide, la cual, cuando es a la orden, equivale a la letra de cambio.
It is not precisely a promissory note, but it seems to be a note that the supplier/builder could bring to treasury somewhere to receive payment.